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    In on roll bread

    In on roll bread
  • Thread: RIP Obamacare

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    [QUOTE=gixxer0.6g;1503457761]I'm a responsible...

    [QUOTE=gixxer0.6g;1503457761]I'm a responsible adult who has always had insurance for himself and his family.[/QUOTE ]

    What do you think insurance is? You that dull OP?
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    Your free speech in a police state. Feelsgoodman?

    Your free speech in a police state. Feelsgoodman?
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    Lol @ the butthurt over free speech while every...

    Lol @ the butthurt over free speech while every other civil liberty is **** on by the govt.
    But sure, a cancelled Ann counter speech is the end of the world.
    Smh
  • They have standards? News to me.

    They have standards? News to me.
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    But Republicans accept more welfare in terms of...

    But Republicans accept more welfare in terms of total dollars. Corporate welfare dwarfs personal welfare.
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    Still no rebuttal to cooperatives, credit...

    Still no rebuttal to cooperatives, credit unions. Employee ownership can take different forms.
    They are socialist enterprises that are not state run.

    Cons are quick to denounce government...
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    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Publix ...

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Publix


    Employee owned. Profitable.
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    The government doesn't have to run the businesses...

    The government doesn't have to run the businesses is the point I'm making. It could be community run( like a local utility for example) , or as a cooperative etc.. It's socialism, without govt...
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    It doesn't have to be centrally planned. Coops. ...

    It doesn't have to be centrally planned. Coops. Credit unions, and employee owned businesses can exist and don't need govt to run.
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    Strong rebuttal

    Strong rebuttal
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    Socialism doesn't have to involve government. ...

    Socialism doesn't have to involve government.

    The problem isn't government, it's power concentration. Socialism dilutes concentrated power. The examples given of failures are by definition, not...
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    It seems as though people believe socialism =...

    It seems as though people believe socialism = government.

    What about coops, credit unions or employee owned enterprises? You can have socialism without government if it is more preferable(...
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    Why is socialism bad?

    Be honest
  • Exactly my point. We know that co2 can get even...

    Exactly my point. We know that co2 can get even higher than present, which is why dumping more into the atmosphere ( when we don't need to) is stupidity on a massive scale.

    Besides co2, other...
  • Ice core samples primarily. Also, the oil and...

    Ice core samples primarily.

    Also, the oil and gas industry ( which benefita from the status quo) has spent tons of money and time on climate change denial propaganda.

    The fact they could...
  • If you want smaller government this would do...

    If you want smaller government this would do that....
  • With automation, you get rid of the money...

    With automation, you get rid of the money problem. But yes, essentially that is freedom.
    Needing to 'work' to have the essentials of life is ultimately inefficient and primitive. Just lol @ wasting...
  • Resist automation? Lol You ride a horse to work...

    Resist automation? Lol
    You ride a horse to work /school?

    Lol. Stupid Luddite
  • If it reduces costs, as claimed, who cares? ...

    If it reduces costs, as claimed, who cares?
    Kind of like the Utah experiment with providing housing.

    Ultimately, we need to automate production of the necessities. Something quite doable. We...
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