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Do you any of you consider how morally irresponsible you are being for accusing somebody of doing something they didn't do? Somebody who's only motive is steering young weight lifters away from drug...

It's just contrast, most youtubers do it. No photoshopping, I don't even have chop actually. Thanks for the input though, maybe next time we will just leave it raw?

I'm not a miscer, I don't care for reps. If at least a few people with your (incorrect) assumptions about natural bodybuliding, change their minds, then I don't care how many negs I get. It's...

I'm not trying to fool anybody. I'm not trying to start a youtube career. This is a video I wanted to make, it's a topic I feel strongly about, and with good reason judging by the response on this...

I am willing to bet there are very few people on misc who can honestly say "I trained my hardest, i did everything I should have, I didn't skip workouts, I didn't take time off, for at least 5 years"...

What do you people think? Gokuflex has seriously trained for 10 years, is he supposed look like Chris Pratt? I think he is more than likely natural.

At the risk of being trolled again, thank you I appreciate that

Confused by the social anxiety thing, and a lot of your other comments, like calling me a moron. Thanks for the input, but I'm usually the one getting trolled. Misc is not a place I spend much time.

I don't believe anything that I or my brother has accomplished is anything less than typical results for 5-6+ years solid consistent training given typical ectomoprh genetics. How long have you been...

Lol I would never push products or anything. I don't want an income from YouTube. I just want to promote natural training, it's something I personally care about and enjoy.

What if I'm not lying. What if I actually care about furthering the legitimacy of natural bodybuilding? What if I made this video because I care about this? What would that make you? Please take it...

I'm sorry you don't think you can achieve this, I believe you can. And I hope you reconsider.

Zyzz looked way better after 2 years of training. Comparison invalid.

Justin sweaty with a pump in good lighting and properly conditioned looks a lot more impressive than justin depleted in the morning with somewhat higher body fat and poor lightning. But thank you I...

What if I'm not lying? What does that make you? It's unfortunate that you are unable to realize your potential

Well at least I was trolled by a professional serial troll

I go on to elaborate. My point being, yes natural bodybuilding is slow and it sucks, but there is a greater payoff at the end in my opinion.

Yeah lol, tell me about it. It's a shame.

Yup, he's been training a bit over 6 years now I believe. He started junior year of high school, he graduated from his undergrad in the spring.

There are loads of natural bodybuilders who who've been doing this way longer and with much more success (no phill isn't one of them lol very clever), if you want to be impressed you should go check...