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AHHH I was just about to make a thread asking if there's a new Neurosurge coming out. Awesome. Lookin fwd to Velocity.

Excited, ready.

Looking forward to Neogenix coming back with a bang

My barber says its the pomade. There are usually a lot of chemicals in them.

But if you also switched shampoos, that may be something to look into.

Beans, nuts/nut butters, quinoa, yogurt since you're eating milk, whey.

Eat those and lift along with your cardio. Bodyweight exercises are fine to start with.

You may need to eat more in...

^^controlled labs is an awesome company.

Are you trying them on an empty stomach? Using 1 scoop/recommended dosage?

Neogenix Neurosurge and ANS Ritual are the last two that I've used and love.
Neurosurge is plenty effective at 3/4 of a scoop too.

PES Alphamine or Norcodrene

Also interested. Exact same formula?

Doesn't price also have to do with sales & size of the company? Along with/on top of the exact ingredients. Or no

Finally got around to trying ANS Ritual & like it a lot. Def recommend.

Looks awesome. I actually much prefer the caffeine content @ closer to 2 than 300. Interested is seeing how the theacrine works, I know it's been in a few products before.

So is it anhydrous, or di caffeine malate, or both? A lil confusing there

NICE!! @peteme33

My New Years goals are to get some bodyforge 2.1. Loving neurosurge.

Eh well it is the supp section so to answer, aside from the homemade shakes I would go with this^^^^^^ -great profile on iforce mass gainz. Or bulk muscle, or universal real gains, or gold feast (rip...

Neurosurge, Stimino, pump igniter, animal rage is my current rotation in order of use-frequency. Lol

I think "program23" woulda been more marketable as I'm pretty sure PC agreed with when it was first coming out. But who knows.

Caffeine. Hot coffee/tea.

Give the product a chance. Reviews/opinions after one use, esp of non stim products may not have much merit. You said you're not shedding fat even with your best efforts - which leads me to believe...

These, controlled labs Stimino, & haven't tried it yet but you prob can't go wrong with your initial idea of ergoblast. I also like neurosurge 3.0 & ans diablo lime. I would consider the ingredients...

How's your hydration after taking/during your workout/in general? I feel that way pretty much only when I'm dehydrated