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  • http://www.musclegurus.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4...

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    One should draw NO inferences from this product based on its name and the fact that another steroid used to be sold under the same name. It is...
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    I loved this (only) flavor of Sustain... it's...

    I loved this (only) flavor of Sustain... it's pretty much the ON/Optimum of casein powders.
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    I haven't seen that evidence, but heard the idea...

    I haven't seen that evidence, but heard the idea floated by Patrick Arnold. Evidence presented to the FDA for things such as this are NOT proof, but are rather claims that the FDA evaluates... the...
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    anadrol-50

    anadrol-50
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    I would like to see this... there were a lot of...

    I would like to see this... there were a lot of pissed off people trying to find such evidence, and they came up empty-handed. There is evidence that it is not toxic. You have quite a task here.
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    CEE is a scam (I am sure it is now intentional,...

    CEE is a scam (I am sure it is now intentional, but at one point was likely not). But, nobody has proved (or even come up with a mechanism for) anything regarding danger, and I have shown multiple...
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    well, one example is the '1-test easily converts...

    well, one example is the '1-test easily converts to testosterone in the body', but it is a minor error that doesn't give the wrong idea, so no big deal.

    EDIT: And the "CSN"
  • I wasn't sure if there were or not, the bar just...

    I wasn't sure if there were or not, the bar just had a taste kind of similar to them... again, it wasn't bad at all, and earned a 7/10 for taste in my opinion.
  • hey, thanks for the feedback guys... does anyone...

    hey, thanks for the feedback guys... does anyone know when/if bb.com is going to be selling these two?
  • DS's SUSTAIN Protein Bar and Casein Shake

    I was asked to review Designer Supplements' protein bar (Sustain bar) and casein protein powder (peanut butter fudge flavor) for their taste, mixability, texture, and any related qualities. I ate the...
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    ok, so in other words, you have no idea.

    ok, so in other words, you have no idea.
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    I don't have to prove that it doesn't do...

    I don't have to prove that it doesn't do anything, because that is impossible ("negative proof")... make a claim, and I can try and dispute it. So far, you said it gets creatine into solution, but...
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    Creatine dissolves fully in water at room...

    Creatine dissolves fully in water at room temperature. Creatine breaks down in stomach acid, but with 15 seconds or so extra you are losing a few mg at most, which has a cost of a penny or two of...
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    Not really. You didn't actually explain why...

    Not really. You didn't actually explain why increasing the concentration of a creatine solution is relevant to increasing efficacy... it doesn't seem to accomplish anything at all.
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    I'm calling your bluff... go ahead and explain.

    I'm calling your bluff... go ahead and explain.
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    Congratulations, ad hominem arguments and...

    Congratulations, ad hominem arguments and completely irrelevant talking points make the best arguments!

    I'm not joking. Unfortunately, only stupid people listen to such arguments. Why don't you...
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    go to google and enter in "proving a negative". ...

    go to google and enter in "proving a negative". I'm not really guessing, I am saying there is no reason for you to think this, and so you should not assume that it happens. I can assume that it...
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    my point is, there is no reason that heating...

    my point is, there is no reason that heating creatine would make it absorb better. Absolutely none... and no evidence that it wouldn't make it absorb worse.

    Even if it did, there is no point, as...
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    I am 100% sure that it wont do anything...

    I am 100% sure that it wont do anything worthwhile. This is like the people who get steel-cut oats instead of rolled oats... who gives a ****? It will never make an appreciable difference, just as...
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    I am 99.9999% certain that this will do nothing...

    I am 99.9999% certain that this will do nothing to increase the absorption, and 100% certain that it won't be worth the time. The eventual creatine levels in your muscles has very little to do with...
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