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i tried it. and i have to say it worked. not as good i wantet but i got alot stronger from it. my weight went up about 8lbs no water weight. lost little after but never was bloatet.

i will do a...

where did you gain more lbm? on clout or orotine?
thanks

woud it have more effect if i woud use extra 5gr creatin mono with it? just thinking its a bit underdosed and the creatin ethyl ester dident do something for me when i used it solo?

Foundational...

how much lbm did you gain on pump?

i just ordered them. gonna try them together.

45 minutes preeworkout the mstak
30 minutes preeworkout pump.

maybe i thake 1500mg tribulus with it.

hope i get them soon.

good luck

realy, thanks alot.

i leave the creatin out my first cycle just trib 1500mg dayli so i can see what pump and mstak got to offer in mass.

if its good, 2cycle will be:
mstak
pump
mono 5gr. ...

great. i do it how you guys do. 45 minute pre-workout mstak then 30minutes pre-workout pump. i will start right after clout is up.

cant almost wait. feeling like a small child waiting on...

some help?

hi,

i am on man clout at the moment and finish in 1 week. can i start animal pump right after clout or do i have to wait between some weeks?

i am planing to take the redpill in both products...

thank you very much ahs4n.
that are the anwsers im looking for.

woud you start pump directly after clout or wait some weeks?

bether for mass gains
m-stak or pump?

which one would you find bether?
no-explode or animal pump?

lbm gains wise.

im using man clout and got good gains from it.

i love clout by man.

did somebody use both clout or pump? wich one is bether?
where did you gain more lbm?

i used different ones. but by far best is CLOUT!!! cant go wrong with it... most lbm gains....

yeah i think i stick with clout i hade good results once with it. so wy not again. im now on creatin mono. how long do you think to wait bevore starting clout?

BSN Cell Mass or Man Clout?
where did you gain more lbm?

i got some good mass gains from Man Clout. about 6 pounds after 2 bottles.
i tryed also higher power cee and wasent realy pleased.
...

im 5 days in on jungle warfare. im feeling constantly sic and and got bad headache. my body temp. is also up. makes me wanna stop. but wanna get this extra pounds ;-) i almost cant get the third cap...

thanks UNCnate this gets me near to my anwser.

that the gains are not linear i understand. i also understand that everytime i woud use it i gain less on it.
maybe it was not realy so clear what i meant. my poor english.

actualy i just...

hi,
im wondering wy someone woud use mild steroids (turinabol, etc ), get maybe 10 pounds lbm gains and can do 2cycles a year.
on the otherside i see X-Factor. Molecular Nutrition gives a average...

hey kang,
how much lbm did you gain till now?