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  • A biological component doesn't necessarily mean...

    A biological component doesn't necessarily mean there's dysfunction. Many of the processes which create psychopathology are found to operate on spectrums, where the other end of these spectrums are...
  • I have said this all along. The contention I've...

    I have said this all along. The contention I've placed in the commonly proposed etiology of depression/anxiety (specifically anxiety spectrum given the topic of this thread) is that there is no...
  • So...you don't actually disagree with much of...

    So...you don't actually disagree with much of anything I've been saying in terms of the etiology of anxiety/depression? Unless you maintain that they can indeed be labeled "chemical imbalances."

    ...
  • Because you're wrong. Just...in the event you...

    Because you're wrong. Just...in the event you feel like learning anything.



    Both. All. The entire idea of a chemical imbalance of serotonin and thus facilitating greater synaptic activity in...
  • Except for the data I've provided...? At best,...

    Except for the data I've provided...? At best, they facilitate about 50% of meaningful change even in the most severely depressed clients. This equates to a drop of 4-8 points on a depression...
  • Dude, do you even read studies? This is why...

    Dude, do you even read studies? This is why there's a thing called inclusion criteria. These were individuals who were diagnosed with depression. Anyone who doesn't meet study criteria is excluded...
  • Then it means you truly have zero basis for ever...

    Then it means you truly have zero basis for ever prescribing antidepressants, if we're just tossing out old data. It means virtually all empirical support for the efficacy of antidepressants is, at...
  • TADS (2007) data places it higher, yet. You...

    TADS (2007) data places it higher, yet.

    You still haven't responded to any of the other research I posted. How come antidepressants don't outperform placebos across 12,500 participants and 74...
  • My point involves the elevated risk of...

    My point involves the elevated risk of suicidality as acknowledged by the FDA and pharmaceutical companies themselves.

    From TADS (2007):

    Keep in mind this is a randomized trial.
    No differences...
  • Only took 9 pages for someone to post something,...

    Only took 9 pages for someone to post something, great. Does this look at all FDA-submitted trials, or only those with positive results? I'll find it on my school's database.

    Already in inclusion...
  • I've elaborated extensively? And I haven't...

    I've elaborated extensively? And I haven't negated anyone's success? My role in this thread has been solely to talk mechanisms of therapeutic change and population-level efficacy. I have no interest...
  • Unfavorable? It used data submitted by...

    Unfavorable? It used data submitted by pharmaceutical companies to the FDA? The lead author works for Harvard Medical School? It's from the New England Journal of Medicine, which has the highest...
  • 1) Do you have any data to suggest that at all? ...

    1) Do you have any data to suggest that at all?

    2) I do: http://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.0050045 - even for severely depressed to very severely depressed...
  • Going to post data as promised in hopes that...

    Going to post data as promised in hopes that people might read it and think twice about formulating opinions without actually looking at, you know, the science behind it.

    First, we can look at...
  • Already posted about 20 references addressing...

    Already posted about 20 references addressing this. Stop being lazy and read them. I'll post even more later. Just for you.
  • You calling me a high school counselor is like me...

    You calling me a high school counselor is like me calling you a McDonald's manager. I can pursue licensure and work as a therapist or research analyst at this point. People from my MA program are...
  • What makes you think relaxation helps long-term...

    What makes you think relaxation helps long-term learning? It doesn't. Again, there's a reason why relaxation treatment is our go-to placebo condition; it doesn't really work. The individual will...
  • No, there is a pretty conclusive decision....

    No, there is a pretty conclusive decision. Overall: it doesn't. The majority of trials done on this topic would say there is no advantage beyond a placebo pill. Interestingly when you look at the...
  • And yet you haven't looked at the studies...you...

    And yet you haven't looked at the studies...you haven't described what a meaningful outcome is in the context of anxiety...all you hear is whether an organization supports or doesn't support it and...
  • Like NIMH and APA...both organizations who side...

    Like NIMH and APA...both organizations who side with what I have said so far, and have funded some of the trials I have posted? Are the peer-reviewed studies from BMJ not sufficiently credible for...
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