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Very true. Wolf almost has the mass of Markus Ruhl but the waist of Frank Zane. :)

I like your new avatar. That's good quality pic. :)

I mean that to Melvin Anthony

I agree except he has narrow shoulders.

Only an insecure troll would start to criticize an honest thread like this. Get a life please.

This is more like a Vic Martinez appreciation thread.

But of course there are strong competition from other bodybuilders who were praised once or many times for their awesome genetics. Let the...

It's not about how people love him. It's how about how people appreciate him because of his contribution to music and pop culture in general.

I'm no MJ fan and I never owned any of his albums but...

Vic Martinez has all what Phil Heath has and then some.

But bodybuilding is also objective. :)

Chris Cormier is very symmetrical but Victor definitely has better genetics than him.

In terms of pure size, muscle shape and aesthetic symmetry, I think Victor Martinez is up there, if not on top, among the top five pro bodybuilders with the best genetics of all time. Even Ronnie...

He's literally the king of pop, the ultimate performer artist and the Elvis Presley of our generation.

He's literally the king of pop, the ultimate performer artist and the Elvis Presley of our generation.

Mike Matarazzo, Bertil Fox, Lou Ferrigno, Lee Haney, Ronnie Coleman

Wow you surely are ignorant about the whole argument. The guys you are talking about who would smoke the sh*t out of Arnold didn't bodybuild in the '70s and Arnold didn't bodybuild during their time....

He won seven. Ronnie won eight. Arnold could have won thirteen. Ronnie could have won just eight at the most and he had two wins which some say he didn't deserve.

Again, Frank Zane won three and...

Exactly the point of all Arnold nuthuggers like me. Arnold's real test would have been Lee Haney and Samir Bannout in 1983. Well, Bannout won and Lee Haney was second. That was Lee Haney's first and...

From 1970-1975, nobody ever came close to beating Arnold. You didn't hear that because you're 18 and it happened at least three decades ago.

There were fewer competitors during Arnold's time yet...

Sorry Columbu is also a two-time Mr. Olympia like Jay. :)

Frank Zane and Franco Columbu won more Olympias than Jay Cutler. Does that mean Zane is better than Cutler? No.