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  • Good point, very good point. But I think tht 1)...

    Good point, very good point. But I think tht 1) olympic lifts are harder to peak for a meet because of their intricacy, performance is very linked to the feeling that day, bodyweight, hydration, and...
  • To say that strength training is unnecessary is...

    To say that strength training is unnecessary is to say that only genetic freaks who are innately strong can succeed in this sport. It seems to be the way the sport is going but I refuse to accept...
  • Won the nationals then got busted. Whole other...

    Won the nationals then got busted. Whole other discussion.

    Forecefedfreak- I want to be as smart as you when I'm all growed up
  • Then how do you explain the Bulgarians? Or the...

    Then how do you explain the Bulgarians? Or the broz tribe? Didn't pat mendes have an 850 squat when he cleaned 500?

    Look, all I've said that is you need strength. Strength is not all you need....
  • Are you exclusively an olympic weightlifter? How...

    Are you exclusively an olympic weightlifter? How long have you been doing it? What are your leverages? Have you been coached? Very weak argument.

    I don't know how to respond to the last part. Bad...
  • Two. It seemed pretty true. It seems that many...

    Two. It seemed pretty true.

    It seems that many in this thread will use the exception to disprove the rule. The great weightlifting nations are very strong. The Chinese, te Russians, even the...
  • I take a lot of charniga's findings with a grain...

    I take a lot of charniga's findings with a grain of salt. I hear him say things that will not help weightlifting but I've never really heard him back a program or create one. A lot of what he says...
  • You are correct. The man with the highest snatch...

    You are correct. The man with the highest snatch and clean wins the meet. Coincidentally, it's usually the guy with the highest front squat. Unfortunately reality. I do not discount the need for...
  • I'm confused... This sounds like an agreement...

    I'm confused... This sounds like an agreement with me... I didn't hear a reason why a kid couldn't get strong...
  • Fair enough

    Fair enough
  • Hang on - surplus of neurons means that they have...

    Hang on - surplus of neurons means that they have the ABILITY to enhance their muscle memory, not the necessity, though since technique is necessity it's an irrelevant point. Humans acquire the...
  • As I said, I didn't wanna start a fight, but yes...

    As I said, I didn't wanna start a fight, but yes I personally believe that if I had acquired proper positions in squats and pulls then loaded them up earlier, less than ten, I would be a better...
  • I competed I a meet last month where a few young...

    I competed I a meet last month where a few young kids competed. The only difference from the older guys was that the guys competed with the girls too, and none of them actually used a bar it was a...
  • Just giving my take, not trying to force anyone...

    Just giving my take, not trying to force anyone to believe it.
  • Technique is important. But that kid could barely...

    Technique is important. But that kid could barely stand up from a forty pound clean. Really doesn't matter how pretty you can make it look unless you can make the lift. I don't want to go all...
  • Did any of you save that travis mash article?

    Just wondering, been looking for it keep findig links but none of them work
  • I don't know man, I think as far as a...

    I don't know man, I think as far as a psychological standpoint goes, at that age wouldn't it make sense to have them on a general strength program, then add olympic lifts into it? I just don't see...
  • I read about this coach who only let his kid do...

    I read about this coach who only let his kid do the lifts with a broomstick and then let him max when he was sixteen. Allegedly he cleaned 140kg. I doubt the truth here though I mean, ou have to have...
  • That's still less than a hundred pounds... But...

    That's still less than a hundred pounds... But it's awesome that little kids are into it, and I hope he sticks with it.
  • Out of curiousity, are you still progressing?

    Out of curiousity, are you still progressing?
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