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deadlift
bb rows
cable rows
lat pull downs
barbell curls
preacher curls
ill see how it goes , on the back changes

that's whats its gonna come down too , just feel hesitant on doing this in the same workout, but again ill do it for 1 month and see the progress

18 sets with both biceps and back. too much or okay?

damn then im over eating by a lot, im in a 500 cal surplus . i know for sure i just need to buy a scale cause thats the only way ima find my optimal number to gain at a rate of 0,5 llbs every 2 weeks

ill do it for a month to see how it goes, but your sure 18 sets in total for back and biceps is too much? by the end of the workout

i gotta trial and error it, to find my optimal number right?:P

500 calorie surplus or less like 250 calorie surplus, a day??

ahh i see. but can't I just do like 4 sets of barbell rows or even just 3 ? instead of doing both movements in the workout

but can you name a purpose/reasoning on why doing both movements to hit almost the same muscle in a workout would be beneficial and not counter productive?

k then ill incorporate the adjustments and see how it goes for 1 month

after yesterday i didn't feel like i even could but i don't feel its necessary yet, in another week ill make my decision

ill put it on here if you really want, but no point in changing a routine if its still working for me, despite the science or bro science

dead lift ( 3 sets ) of 8-12 reps
seated rows ( 3 sets ) of 8-12 reps
lat pull downs ( 3 sets ) of 8-12 reps
then i do my bicep work

the only adjustment im making is lowering my reps by 2...

for back? i already made my mind up on this decision though, and only changing it cause my back is lagging

Oh i get it, didn't think of it that way. well should I do it for like a month and see how it goes? then adjust accordingly after that
( in this for the results)

my back and biceps workout will end with 18 sets, sure its not too much?
i know only i will be able to tell, but i just don't wanna go overboard and overtrain

dont they both hit the middle back but from a different angle? and just not sure if its tooo much volume?

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wait so i keep the seated rows in there?? one hits the middle back horizontally and the other vertically right??

Yeah ill follow this routine for sure, with the small adjustments im going to make it was gonna end up like this anyways.
although the lower reps will target more myofibilar hypertrophy right? so is...