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mrpb, maybe my unicorn reference was hyperbole, because I'm obviously someone who gained muscle while losing fat, which is obvious by my profile pics. I mean to say that once I had lost 160 lbs, the...

Hardly thoroughly debunked. However, how am I not supposed to pick apart statements like this?



Yes ... I know ... most of these studies are based on self-reporting, but since we're both...

You clearly do not read many studies. Good scientists never make empirical claims, but rather leave the door open for discussion. Reverting to arguing semantics is not showing me anything other than...

Your last link provided me this bomb, "Nonequilibrium thermodynamics and energy efficiency in weight loss diets," Richard D Feinman and Eugene J Fine....

Thanks for this. This is the best study I could have asked for, because of my confirmation bias and all. (first of all, being in a state of ketosis does not mean you're fat adapted).



He goes...

mrpb, of course I have a confirmation bias; it's a debate after all. However, I didn't turn to keto on a whim. You know I was originally counting macros, boosting my leucine, trying to find the...

Great link, mrpb. The first thing I noticed was the comment from Cox and Clarke, "Ketogenesis is an evolutionary adaptation conserved within all higher order organisms to sustain survival during...

See above in bold.

If you still think that calories in = calories out, how do you explain thermogenesis in brown adipose tissue? Brown fat has mitochondria and can burn lipids just for heat...

Yes, they are likely producing ketones, but they're not yet fat adapted. A big mistake of first-time keto attempts is going right from carbs to keto. You should spend at least a few weeks tapering...

I love me some science, but 3 weeks is barely enough to start utilization ketones and beta oxidation. A 6-month period would be more appropriate.

Adam, just because you've been around the forum longer and with more reputation, combined with more aggressive verbiage, it doesn't make you correct. No matter how much you call me an idiot, it...

Interesting old article, but I'm not a fan of their method. The subjects were only exposed to maximum 10-day test periods, which is not enough to benefit from a ketogenic diet. The water weight idea...

Something doesn't jibe here:



You were very overweight most of your life, yet you magically eat whatever you want and don't gain weight? Which is it? Do you eat whatever you want or do you...

Because you are a low insulin responder with no metabolic damage, no fatty liver and a generally healthy lifestyle (perhaps with the exception of "eating whatever you want."). You are the lucky few...

I think keto is getting hate because of misinformation like this. Nutrition and energy is not digital, and is not an on-off switch as suggested by a hypocaloric diet. The human body and its energy...

Woot! Thanks!

Thanks everyone! I might mix up the brands while I wait for the bb.com version to come back.

I love the Bodybuilding.com casein powder; I use it in thick food recipes, not in a protein shake. It's like adding cornstarch to a recipe, but with added protein. I tried to buy it today, but it's...

Late to the party, but subbed.

Hi everyone. I thought I'd post an update. Two weeks ago, I started Keto Paleo, and it's going well. I'm down to 262.6 lbs, and if all goes well, I might hit my record low weight by the end of the...