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You tried to be nice? Lol

I'm not pushing any supp. I'm first creating a supp that i will test myself for 6 months to a year bulking. I'm only explaining this to you because you have a warped view...

Sorry bro i dont bleed every 28 days so definetly not hormonized or whatever you are reffering too.

We use no gear, again we use no gear. Our workouts are rage driven. When you start moving...

Lol

Thanks for your input. I'm Gyno free check out my pics. I'm reffering to members of this board and many others complaining of "gyno" issue when gaining.

"when OP says 100% natty he means...

That there over there dem reps for them routines

Good job on the gains my friend. Once you hit a higher calorie bracket or moreso you get to a heavier bodyweight your body requires more calories. Shakes are very helpful at this point. We are more...

I lol'd also. This is an example of what the formula will be aimed towards. Anyone that wants serious mass should use some type of protein supp.

Bump. No input?

Good job. Keep going.

I'm looking for something like 2 scoops = 1200 cals so when i diet down i can stay on the same shake as it will consist of complex carbs. No need to change shakes when dieting down or "cutting" All...

This shake will be for bulking and strength gains. So we will use carbs. Im not looking to create just another ordinary protein shake. But a mass gaining shake with reasonable serving per container...

What would you like to see in a protein shake?

correct my friend. Lean mass vs overall mass. I want dense mass "muscle" not "fat". I never said it had anything to do with a bulking shake. That is completley diet. But a high quality bulking shake...

i understand why you dont understand what dense muscle is. I will explain

Its the correlation between fat and muscle. Meaning i want more muscle than fat.

Example someone 174lbs 12% body fat...

I guess no one saw the vid of ronnie drinking this huge protein shake lol. Dorian also drank very calorie dense shakes. No one can eat just food alone and swell the **** up. Thats why we have supps...

Price and serving per container my friend. I use to run through a bag of serious mass every 7 days trying to hit my calorie req sometimes up to 6000 cals a day. Average protein supp is 1lb is 15...

I really looking into getting oats into the formula as a source of complex carbs. No nutella

My friend, where are you getting your numbers from? I will not put on 50lbs of fat. I have personal experiece when it comes to bulking. Diet,sleep,training it's a lifestyle! There are limits to what...

Lets swell up together. Whos down?

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and i got far bigger than that.

Old workout partner use to play for USF...