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    I don't think any doctor would recommend taking...

    I don't think any doctor would recommend taking steroids. Of course not. However he most certainly *is* in error in making that statement. What I am trying to point out is the irony of someone...
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    I certainly think that you have valid concerns...

    I certainly think that you have valid concerns and I agree with many of your points about supplements being marketed to kids and adolescents. Now I've seen posts where you have said that you're a...
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    Fair enough, however the following reduce the...

    Fair enough, however the following reduce the risk factors for atherosclerosis:

    1) Regular exercise.
    2) Diets free of saturated fats.
    3) Reducing abdominal fat.
    4) Giving up smoking.
    5) ...
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    I'm all for informed discussion and looking at...

    I'm all for informed discussion and looking at things realistically. The problem is that posts like this do absolutely nothing to change anyone's perception. We have two camps, for and against. ...
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    Glad you're reconsidering. You've got your whole...

    Glad you're reconsidering. You've got your whole life ahead of you. You want to be in a state where you can live it to the fullest :). You've got nolva. Stick with that. I would just add some...
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    Superdrol is *not* a prohormone. Superdrol is a...

    Superdrol is *not* a prohormone. Superdrol is a full blown steroid. Read BigCat's review of Superdrol. Check on AM. Confirm it for yourself. It is not a prohormone.
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    You're drinking on a methylated steroid and...

    You're drinking on a methylated steroid and you're worried about your temper? Do you understand what you are doing to your body? Let me explain some things to you quickly (not all of which I agree...
  • Poll: I could do with a little less watching opposing...

    I could do with a little less watching opposing reps beat each other. It gets a bit boring watching them throw pot shots at each other. In the beginning the pimpimg was ok but it's getting pretty...
  • It's funny how both this thread and the lottery...

    It's funny how both this thread and the lottery thread are always at the top now. Ironic that the thread complaining about the thread is almost as bad. Now if everybody just went to the gym...
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    I'm 6'2" and I weigh nowhere near 285. You've...

    I'm 6'2" and I weigh nowhere near 285. You've not used AAS (or you'd know about PCT). I figure it was a pretty rational conclusion. I don't know many people that are 285 lbs, no AAS and totally...
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    LOL, I obviously completely missed that one. I...

    LOL, I obviously completely missed that one. I don't always have time to read the forum so I miss a lot of stuff. I didn't realise there was a drive to get companies to do this. In that case, I...
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    I see your point. To be honest, I've often...

    I see your point. To be honest, I've often wondered how people design supplements. I've often been under the impression that these companies pick a substance, mine PubMed, and formulate a product. ...
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    Hey, I think you've hit on something there. ...

    Hey, I think you've hit on something there. Perhaps DS could set up a proper log and have people do bloodwork? I, for one, would be very interested to see the results. How about it DS?
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    I'm not advancing any point of view. I have not...

    I'm not advancing any point of view. I have not taken a stance either way. I just wanted to point out that the particular point of 7-OH reducing testosterone is inconclusive at best. In fact, I...
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    There are four studies in this thread now. Two...

    There are four studies in this thread now. Two posted by Bane. One indicated an effect on testosterone in a group of 21 men. The other was a study of 28 women and 2 men, randomised and...
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    I'm most certainly not advocating ignoring it. ...

    I'm most certainly not advocating ignoring it. And yes, I am most definitely fixated on causation. Furthermore, you are right that we do not know if the effect is incidental or not. There you have...
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    Thanks, you are right and I get tense about it...

    Thanks, you are right and I get tense about it too. I see all these conclusions drawn everywhere. 90% of the time it's due to poorly designed scientific studies. It's very easy to find a study to...
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    Thanks cuponoodles. At least I don't look...

    Thanks cuponoodles. At least I don't look completely insane. Note also that this was a *randomised, double-blind* study, unlike the other study. The placebo effect is a potent one.
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    You're misunderstanding what I'm saying. This...

    You're misunderstanding what I'm saying. This study was designed to: "investigate the effect of 7-oxo-DHEA (dehydroepiandrosterone) on the serum levels of steroid sexual hormones, gonadotropins,...
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