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    Sticky: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attac...

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7707601&d=1429284734
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    Sticky: There also seems to be a couple of millimeters of...

    There also seems to be a couple of millimeters of play in the sleeves on my bar, both in and out and up and down. I don't happen to recall how that compares to the OB-86B. My Ivanko has none of that....
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    Sticky: That doesn't surprise me at all. You can tell...

    That doesn't surprise me at all. You can tell just by looking at the upright that props up the back on inclines that it is a cheaper bench.

    I liked that BS bench, and it is rated for 1000 lbs in...
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    Sticky: No, you cannot see the bushing at all. It's...

    No, you cannot see the bushing at all. It's obvious that there is a bushing, because the sleeves spin pretty well, but you can't see it.
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    Sticky: Stasher, here are a few pics of my Troy...

    Stasher, here are a few pics of my Troy AOB-1500B. I probably should have thought twice before purchasing Gene's old camera, but I think these will tell you what you want to know. If not, I can take...
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    Sticky: Body Solid and Nautilus are decent home-use...

    Body Solid and Nautilus are decent home-use brands. The Body Solid bench you pictured is by far the better bench of the 2 that you linked.

    The issue is more about value. You can buy the new...
  • I might be more interested in the collar that is...

    I might be more interested in the collar that is pictured....did those come with the bar? Do they have any markings?
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    Hehehe......well, I suppose so, when you put it...

    Hehehe......well, I suppose so, when you put it that way!

    I was really just trying to point out that our wants/needs/tastes evolve over time, and we can't necessarily predict all of that now, nor...
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    I don't think it is terrible to start out with a...

    I don't think it is terrible to start out with a "starter" rack and use it for a few years, although I suppose a lot depends on your individual circumstances. When I first started looking for a rack,...
  • Hmm.....I'm torn between wanting to be part of...

    Hmm.....I'm torn between wanting to be part of the grammar police and wanting to make a sarcastic comment about the grammar police......oh, the anxiety!
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    Sticky: I don't right offhand, but I can take some...

    I don't right offhand, but I can take some tonight if it can wait that long.

    That chamfer is pretty distinctive, and I think that snap ring is also--I think someone referred to it as a Spirolock...
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    THe best part is that it doubles as a beach...

    THe best part is that it doubles as a beach chair/fishin' pole!
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    Sticky: Agreed. Assuming that this is the AOB-1500B, you...

    Agreed. Assuming that this is the AOB-1500B, you can get it new for $180-210ish. I have one, and I like it, but in my opinion, it won't do much more than the OB-86B. It has a center knurl, and the...
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    I can think of a quick rig-up with a piece of...

    I can think of a quick rig-up with a piece of webbing and a DB handle.....
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    The second sentence above is key--consider...

    The second sentence above is key--consider purchases based on the routine you will be doing. Then consider whether to get a lat pulldown, GHD, DB's, etc.
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    Holy crap! I had forgotten about that thing!

    Holy crap! I had forgotten about that thing!
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    Thanks! I like the look of the HCB, I might...

    Thanks!

    I like the look of the HCB, I might consider that if I end up using my IM handle often enough to approach the 80 lb max on it.
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    Sticky: Just to piggyback on this, he says that he has...

    Just to piggyback on this, he says that he has other stuff for sale. I might take a look at what else he has. Make an offer for whatever you want that does not include the standalone lat pulldown,...
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    How does one determine an appropriate weight to...

    How does one determine an appropriate weight to start with when doing cardio? I don't do this often, so I probably use a weight that is a little too light (just the IM KB handle itself, or maybe one...
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    I don't think OP realizes that this thread is...

    I don't think OP realizes that this thread is mostly comprised of people whose gyms are in their homes.
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