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    The pre-workout looks like a work out all by...

    The pre-workout looks like a work out all by itself! The post workout looks fine. I use a wide stance for squats. Sumo style! If you're having balancing issues try wearing shoes with a heel and see...
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    Salutations to the sun. Active stretching before...

    Salutations to the sun. Active stretching before the work out. NEVER do static stretching before an activity. Do them afterwords if you want to do them....
  • What you posted has no progression model or setup...

    What you posted has no progression model or setup from set to set. It just says 5x8. How many are work sets? Is it a pyramid or straight sets? In short, it's a crappy write up. He'll get better...
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    Do you have access to a cable and bar to do pull...

    Do you have access to a cable and bar to do pull downs? If so load it with a lite weight and try to do 2 sets of 20 reps with it. In the mean time drop the pull ups. Do that for 4 weeks and try to...
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    Until it stops working or you get tired of it. If...

    Until it stops working or you get tired of it. If you look through the original sticky there is a woman in there with the user name Bopeep. She used the program for over a year and a half. To say she...
  • Throw it out and run a proven program! Good grief!

    Throw it out and run a proven program! Good grief!
  • Madcow had 2 assistance lifts, curls and tricep...

    Madcow had 2 assistance lifts, curls and tricep press for 2 sets of 8. Starr said 2 sets of 20 reps, no warm up. Load the bar and go! Starr followed what he called the rule of 40. 2x20, 3x15, 4x10...
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    You have three options, 1) reduce the volume, 2)...

    You have three options, 1) reduce the volume, 2) reduce the frequency, 3) change programs.
  • First of all you you didn't include sets or reps....

    First of all you you didn't include sets or reps. Secondly RUN IT AS IS for the first 6 weeks then decide if you can handle anything more! Starr's program called for 2 sets of 20 reps for assistance...
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    The first time through you will probably get a...

    The first time through you will probably get a shock effect. If diet, sleep and rest are in order expect to see some size gains! When that stops happening switch back to a heavier lower rep program....
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    Five hours of sleep wont cut it. I have the same...

    Five hours of sleep wont cut it. I have the same problem so I can say been there, done that. Most recommendations for active people are eight to ten hours. Most of us can't do that. The solution is...
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    NO! You absolutely shouldn't be losing strength...

    NO! You absolutely shouldn't be losing strength after a deload. You should feel super charged. Something is wrong. Diet, sleep, active rest or training protocol is screwed up. Too high a frequency,...
  • Plastic surgeon.

    Plastic surgeon.
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    Well, first of all it's normal to be beat into...

    Well, first of all it's normal to be beat into the ground after 3 weeks on any 5x5 or power lifting type program. You have 2 choices with them. 1 deload every 4th week religiously. What that looks...
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    https://oldschooltrainer.com/bill-starrs-5-x-5-tra...

    https://oldschooltrainer.com/bill-starrs-5-x-5-training/
    Swap out power clean for rows and you're good to go. BUT if you know how to do a proper power clean they are a better choice because they...
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    It works and it works well.

    It works and it works well.
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    Just a thought,...

    Just a thought, https://physiqz.com/powerlifting-programs/madcow-5x5-workout/
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    You got it. You'll find that you can apply that...

    You got it. You'll find that you can apply that simple trick to any routine using a sets across set up. When you're pyramiding reps from set to set......well good luck with that.
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    Yes I hear myself. My first attempt would be to...

    Yes I hear myself. My first attempt would be to push the CNS for more strength. The last resort would be to attempt to build more size/anaerobic endurance by increasing the rep range, not adding...
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    "That chit don't work very long home boy." FORTY...

    "That chit don't work very long home boy." FORTY FIVE YEARS using Starr's templates. Is that long enough? Nobody beyond a rank beginner is adding 10 pounds and that's only on squats and dead lifts....
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