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Kai is the winner as far as prejudging goes IMO. He edges Phil out, its close but I think Kai is bigger, denser and more conditioned here.

I think lionel is my favorite physique right now. Great structure and shape

cant find an easy converter for this and always am a little bit unsure about when to set the clock

if las vegas is is gmt -7 hours, and sweden is +2 hours, it should be a nine hour difference....

I had one also, at my first gym. Getting all nostalgic just thinking about it.

It's a great machine, should be a given. instead I have 4 different row machines and like 3 pulldowns :rolleyes:...

i trust you

When i saw all these people posting flex, i thought to myself What the ****?

He wouldnt need the damn oil if he was.

Then i saw serge oliva and was relieved. His cartoonish bellies and shape is...

you can say aestethic about anything. you can say brandon curry has an aestethic torso but not legs. aestethic arm. aestethic stage.

it simply means that it looks good. an expression that can...

lol my thoughts exactly

potential as in becoming a pro?

im guessing he will look awfully, awfully small on a stage

yes!

allround he is the best currently. least flaws and most complete with biggest size.

and i go by 2010 olympia results mainly, and also add his long and successful career to my judgement.

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa236/SaleZmaj/victor_martinez.jpg

after scrolling through this thread this really was a breath of fresh air. That's a magnificent FDB! notice
that he too puts...

Bb:

Drugs
Genetics for responding
Genetrics for size shape etc
Training, closely followed or maybe equaled by Diet

I really dont see how you can believe genetics are secondary to training....

No results doesnt shock me. Water makes a world of difference. Maybe would have had him at a little higher though.



I do not think you should pinch as hard as you can with calipers.

nothing wrong with being positive but you can do that in some other thread perhaps? because now it's about weaknesses.

what the hell, thought id seen all his shots but this is new. and it's instantly is one of the most impressive bb pics i've seen now.

that's bodybuilding!

^^ this



Yes but not in a good way

when the bb:er is satisfied:
"i really brought a package this year and I came to to battle"
"the judges didn't see it that way. It could have gone either way, the prefered a different look"
...

Or like he's trying to take the ****s

how many of you did like me and looked for arnold in the first pic? :D

This exactly!!!


Speaking of faces, I really really liked that they didn't do all those silly faces in the past. You actually don't need to do faces, even if you flexing full force. It's about...