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Time and time again Trib has been proven to have no scientific validity.

Why do people still think ZMA boosts T when the guy who made the original claim is a convicted felon?

For a real...

Yeah, you shouldn't need them at your age. But do a google search for avenacosides and muara puama. They're the only legitimate natural T boosters. (Anyone who suggests trib or ZMA is misguided....

Post Cycle from protein factory is an excellent liver detox.

The ingredients in Liv 52 and Liver care are essentially diuretics and laxitives. Their effectiveness is mostly folklore and there is absolutely no scientific evidence they do anything at all to...

That's because what you first felt was wishful thinking.

Avenacosides and muara puama are the only legitimate test boosters.

Most products contain avenacosdies in a "blend" so they don't have to list the dosage. Go with one that does.

Anything that...

Good list, but cuciferous vegitables contain goitrogens which supresses thyroid output, slowing fat loss.

I'd add using a good natural T booster into that list. Just to annoy Flagg I'll suggest...

That's because yohimbe increase blood flow but it's also a stimulant. Hence, harder erections, but "paranoia."

That has nothing to do with how much or how long it stays in the body. It just means it has a higher percentage of usable protein.

There's also some discrepancy, depending on who's doing the...

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Thank you for the gentlemanly response.

It's really a matter od degree as to what one person thinks is more important. I'll quickly address a few points.
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Libido or erections? Viagra for erections but I assume you mean a natural supplement.

That's not what the BV means.

Actually, Wade makes an interesting point. But the claim that it is processed like sugar is an exageration to say the least.

Whey is not the holy grail of...

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I WOULD ADD A T BOOSTER TO THIS LIST AS WELL.

[QUOTE=paul e]I was looking at two products: Activate, which is still in beta test, and alot of guys are having very successful results judging by their logs, and Blue Rhino, of which i can say the...

It's all about the % of avenacosides.

Free test will aromatize to e, but at a much lesser extent. Plus, since free test is really the only stuff that matters, it improves the T /e ratio. So...

No, but the whole point of a discussion board is to discuss -- not just sit around and tell newbies to do their homework. They're here to learn. You can choose to help, or not. Actually I know pu12...

Melatonin can cause vivid dreams which will impare sleep.

It also has been shown to increase estrogen levels.

Supplementing melatonin will also hinder natural melatonin release.

Exactly. But for some reason, 6 years later, people are still asking which ZMA is best.

Also...people will swear ZMA increased strength, improved sleep and hightened libido -- all placebo. But no...

First of all , Bill Roberts is hardly someone worth listening to. He's went to work at Biotest after he said they were a bunch of scammers, then they fired his ass because he was proven wrong about...

But the expensive one wasn't a superior protein. EAS simply pays more for advertising and they pass the expense on to you. That's why you're better off buying bland protein at wholesale and flavor...