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    Here is a post from someone who was at the 1980...

    Here is a post from someone who was at the 1980 Mr Olympia-


    I was at the 80 Olympia and I am familiar with the various participants. Actually, I was an Arnold admirer and in no way was in...
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    Mentzer (I'm not a Mentzer apologist) quit...

    Mentzer (I'm not a Mentzer apologist) quit because he believed (along with many others in that contest) that the results were rigged. It's not like he quit baseball, etc, where the results aren't...
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    Nothing to do with legal issues. I could care...

    Nothing to do with legal issues. I could care less about certain laws. It has to do with the other aspects of bodybuilding outside of mass for the sake of mass itself. Synthol?? Really?? Anyone can...
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    Um...you negged me...because you can't handle...

    Um...you negged me...because you can't handle opposing positions. Was Arnold better than Menzter, yes, overall. Especially in the 70's, but not in 1980. The video is more telling than photos of...
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    I am sorry for posting in the infant section....

    I am sorry for posting in the infant section. Won't do it again...
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    Like I said earlier. Anyhow...underrated...

    Like I said earlier. Anyhow...underrated bodybuilders...???
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    Troll??? I have been to 6 Mr Olympia contests, 1...

    Troll??? I have been to 6 Mr Olympia contests, 1 Pro World (pre-Arnold Classic), 4 NPC nationals, 4 Arnold Classics, the 1988 Chicago Pro and too many local contests too count.
    I'd like to hear...
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    It's all subjective. I've seen them many times....

    It's all subjective. I've seen them many times. You aren't adding anything...
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    But he only won 2 IFBB events. I underate him...

    But he only won 2 IFBB events. I underate him because I think he should have won 3 or 4 more times, including an Olympia title.
    Dorian...never should have won...unless mass is the only concern.
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    Those pics (some of them) are taken in dynamic...

    Those pics (some of them) are taken in dynamic movement and a bit misleading. Meaning that Arnold is 'set' while Mike is moving.
    Mike had better quads, calves, hamstrings, forearms, abs, traps,...
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    Heck yeah. Those Arnie judges had it out for him...

    Heck yeah. Those Arnie judges had it out for him after he blew up at Arnold in the locker room. Mike hit poses that no other guy on the stage would attempt. The pose where he extends his arm out,...
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    Underrated Bodybuilders

    I know this has been done before but I'm starting a thread to discuss the bodybuilders that time forgot. A thread for the guy who never got the titles that many think they deserved.

    My top 5...
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    I'm saying that GR has motion and time the same,...

    I'm saying that GR has motion and time the same, yet co-existing.

    A point in space conveys a location in space, this corresponds to a line in spacetime, a worldline.
    An object exists along only...
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    Dimensions in time is nonsense. A dimension is a...

    Dimensions in time is nonsense. A dimension is a location. One must show nature's counterpart to back the theory, no one can do this.
    Anytime you hear a theory, ask for nature's counterpart.

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    It does, time dilation ties to spacetime.

    It does, time dilation ties to spacetime.
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    I notice Telomeres were mentioned. These also...

    I notice Telomeres were mentioned. These also show Spacetime to be possibly wrong-

    http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006/22mar_telomeres.htm
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    v=dx/dt, the t coordinate of the object cannot...

    v=dx/dt, the t coordinate of the object cannot change, it's self-referential.
    Spacetime has no mathematical counterpart in nature itself.

    A change in motion in time would require a second time...
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    I disagree with this 100%. Spacetime itself is...

    I disagree with this 100%. Spacetime itself is self-referential. In other words, it is wrong. Motion in time is self-referential.
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    Don't get me started. I don't believe in the Big...

    Don't get me started. I don't believe in the Big Bang (along with thousands of other physicists). I've done many threads on this. The perpetual Universe has been proven.
    Hubble's law has been shown...
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    Natural selection has been subverted by...

    Natural selection has been subverted by technology, or the innovations of the brilliant. The bad genes are kept in the pool because of this.
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