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cable rows
lat pull downs
barbell curls
preacher curls
ill see how it goes , on the back changes

that's whats its gonna come down too , just feel hesitant on doing this in the same workout, but again ill do it for 1 month and see the progress

18 sets with both biceps and back. too much or okay?

damn then im over eating by a lot, im in a 500 cal surplus . i know for sure i just need to buy a scale cause thats the only way ima find my optimal number to gain at a rate of 0,5 llbs every 2 weeks

ill do it for a month to see how it goes, but your sure 18 sets in total for back and biceps is too much? by the end of the workout

i gotta trial and error it, to find my optimal number right?:P

500 calorie surplus or less like 250 calorie surplus, a day??

ahh i see. but can't I just do like 4 sets of barbell rows or even just 3 ? instead of doing both movements in the workout

I noticed when im having fun doing other things asides bodybuilding my results are better only because i actually stay sane.
but when i wake up with no plans or a few vague ones ( of the same...

but can you name a purpose/reasoning on why doing both movements to hit almost the same muscle in a workout would be beneficial and not counter productive?

k then ill incorporate the adjustments and see how it goes for 1 month

after yesterday i didn't feel like i even could but i don't feel its necessary yet, in another week ill make my decision

ill put it on here if you really want, but no point in changing a routine if its still working for me, despite the science or bro science

dead lift ( 3 sets ) of 8-12 reps
seated rows ( 3 sets ) of 8-12 reps
lat pull downs ( 3 sets ) of 8-12 reps
then i do my bicep work

the only adjustment im making is lowering my reps by 2...

for back? i already made my mind up on this decision though, and only changing it cause my back is lagging

Oh i get it, didn't think of it that way. well should I do it for like a month and see how it goes? then adjust accordingly after that
( in this for the results)

my back and biceps workout will end with 18 sets, sure its not too much?
i know only i will be able to tell, but i just don't wanna go overboard and overtrain

dont they both hit the middle back but from a different angle? and just not sure if its tooo much volume?

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wait so i keep the seated rows in there?? one hits the middle back horizontally and the other vertically right??