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  • From what I can see from the pics (and pics don't...

    From what I can see from the pics (and pics don't lie last time I checked), it looks to me like Kai has more development..he's thicker and more fully developed than Phil. Phil is beating Kai in the...
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    There are naturals who are 200 pounds shredded...

    There are naturals who are 200 pounds shredded perfection, but that doesn't make them MR O.

    Phil is getting owned by Kai..get out of denial.
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    Kai just beat two Mr Olympias right there. What a...

    Kai just beat two Mr Olympias right there. What a shame the truth was neglected because of politics..but luckily the photos tell the real truth. I hope Kai looks at these and knows deep inside he is...
  • THIS ^^ /of thread.

    THIS ^^ /of thread.
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    No, Phil beat Jay. Whereas Ronnie beat himself....

    No, Phil beat Jay. Whereas Ronnie beat himself. If it weren't for his lat and tricep injury, he'd still be racking up sandows.
  • I'd suggest that you don't listen to your friend...

    I'd suggest that you don't listen to your friend and find someone who is actually knowledgeable about pre-contest dieting and peak week. You don't need to cut out water or drink distilled water or...
  • Exactly my thoughts. From the looks of it Jay has...

    Exactly my thoughts. From the looks of it Jay has not made any major improvements, while Kai and possibly Phil have. Jay better hope he comes in sliced 'n diced because kai and phil are on his heels....
  • Kai could use more developed traps and...

    Kai could use more developed traps and shoulders...as guys like Jay dwarf him in that department..other than that, Kai is very well balanced and complete. The next Mr O IMO if he can nail his...
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    GOAT right there! Simply amazing!

    GOAT right there! Simply amazing!
  • I think a lot of people are missing the big...

    I think a lot of people are missing the big picture here. This coming Olympia is anyone's to win...and just like any other show, it depends on who has made improvements, who has not and who comes in...
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    I noticed this too! Jay should be a bit on...

    I noticed this too! Jay should be a bit on edge...cuz Kai is bringing it big time now.
  • That's only because you have seen a legend...

    That's only because you have seen a legend compete when he was in his prime, and now he is not in his prime and retired. Just like it will be sad to see Jay in his "less-than-prime" condition years...
  • What are you even talking about? I don't think...

    What are you even talking about? I don't think you even know what you are saying. First off, he is in offseason shape right now, so that is why he's not as conditioned as you are used to seeing him....
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    This is funny.

    I can't believe almost 4 pages of debate on whether Ronnie is 280+ pounds or whether he is 40 or so pounds less than that...hilarious! I guess it won't be put to rest until he steps on the scale,...
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    I agree, it is end of thread here with this vid....

    I agree, it is end of thread here with this vid. Jay CLEARLY has more width across the shoulders and from the back. His quad sweep is better and overall looks thicker and more complete. In short,...
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    Incredible arms!

    Incredible arms!
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    lol

    lol
  • Yeah, I agree, I can hardly see them..please post...

    Yeah, I agree, I can hardly see them..please post bigger pics already!
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    Buddy, get off your high horse already..you are...

    Buddy, get off your high horse already..you are only making yourself look worse. I don't assume you are a fool, you transpire this all by yourself..my assumption is not needed. Your douchebagging...
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    Wow, you really waste your time in getting riled...

    Wow, you really waste your time in getting riled up over a poster's avatar saying. You must have high blood pressure with all that stressin and pent up bothers you have going on. But since you're...
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