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Norvaline seems to be in a lot of PWO's. Not sure why its so widely utilized if its not a good ingredient. Kinda strange. Only reason I've noticed is the articles I've read brought it to my attention...

dougefresh, thanx for that info. I have read that too before. Can't seem to find any numbers on low, med, high doses. I've been concerned as I sometimes take vasogorge with my pwo & both have Norv....

Just read a report from feb. 2019 claiming norvaline is toxic to brain cells also causing necrotic mortality of cells within the body. Holy crap! I have a ton of PWO with norvaline. ...

Any reason to not stack ZMA and a Secretagogue product?
I'm currently taking ZMA and a product with Mucuna Pruriens/L-Dopa and both are supposed to be taken before going to sleep on an empty...