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So as I said before, Ive been really light nearly all week it seems, dropping to a low of 206 on thursday. Ill concede that I may not be eating as much as I should, but im not by any means starving...

Yea my bad, work this week has been taking up a lot more time than Ive wanted it to. Working 12 hour shifts blows. I should be back to my normal schedule next week so I should have more time to...

You and me both: I'm really interested to see what all the hype is about.

Day 1: Chest/Tri/Shoulders ( warm ups not included )

Pre: 3 capsules APE
1 Scoop Hemavol
1.33 Scoops PSU

Barbell...

So it would seem AEN's AEN ( Sebastian ) and have quite the disagreement, or rather have had quite the disagreement. The problem? I have openly expressed my sentiment that while I like AEN as a...

Hes not passing this off as his opinion, hes passing it off as if it were some sort of "guide", which, I must say I didnt know a guide was a brief review of like 4 products.

Im pretty sure that the glycerophosphates pull water into muscles causing them to become engorged and the beet root is standardized for nitrates which dilate blood vessels so its a feasible pump...

You gained nearly 100 lbs in "a few months"? And both CLA and L-carnitine are **** for fatloss. If you wanna lose weight, clean up your diet and add some cardio to your life.

You have a point there, Ill give you that, but without knowing the extract of either, what more can I go on other than what I see? I mean, hell, am I supposed to trust the word of someone who is...

I like how you presume to know what I think, as such, please show me exactly where I said 3.2g/day of the extract is the end all be all? Because I couldve sworn that the comparison I made was that...

I was looking up Anabeta Elite and noticed that Anatropin is using one of its ingredients, and while you are correct that you will be taking 3 Anatropin per day, thats still a maximum of 625mg/day of...

Thats not what me he means by diminishing returns; what he means is, for each product you add, you get less of a pump from that product.


If you just want pump, Id say GMS, if you want something...

It would also be much closer to ( though still not at methinks ) 1.5g



An uninformed consumer getting ripped off by MT does not justify an informed consumer buying a product he feels is not...

I dont really need a nootropic/stim type product, but if I did, it would be craze.

And I like the tingles from BA which is why I use so much.

Wrong. Read nasghosts posts on the previous pages and youll see that makes a very valid argument with regard to every ingredient in APE. And as someone who has used PSU, I say again it needs two...

1 Scoop Hemavol
1 Scoop Green Mag
1 Scoop Power Shock
3 Scoop Anabolic Ignite
3g ALCAR
4g Beta Alanine

Interject into every thread? LOL this thread is one of YOUR promo threads, and you feel no need to defend your product in your own thread? I never said AEN claimed PSU was a 1 serving concentrate, I...

If its not a part of your job then why are you promoting it; promoting is another way of convincing people to buy something. Presenting science is also a form of promotion, because youre saying,...

Its YOUR JOB to convince people to buy your products. LOL. So, because someone doesnt like prop blends they automatically have their mind made up about every prop blended product? Again, the...

Rather than taking the time to counter what hes saying and bring him to your side, you copped out saying that he was already against APE from the get go. His arguments are valid as there is no way...

Id really like to see some unsponsored logs of APE. I like AEN but Seb's cop out was painfully disappointing.