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Congratulations. You've been suckered into buying the same exact protein for a higher price.

Since I'm the only PF rep here i might as well jump in -- not that it'll matter much.

I didn't design this product nor did I write the promo. I think a big problem is that Alex didn't say what...

Dude, I hope you're not referring to the bogus lab report from 5 years ago.

As it stands the most superior proteins are ;

Super Plasma, but it's very expensive.

Whey Fraction, pricy but...

It all goes hand in hand. The guy who eats well will do better than the guy who doesn't eat well but takes a lot of supplements. But the supplements will put back some of what was lost from a...

Well, yeah --except that I provide information and you provide lies.

I understand. Protein Factory is competition you can't deal with. Lies are all you have.

Time for a bump for those new to the board. You can ignore the last few pages and just extract the vital information.

Aaaaah ANECDOTAL feedback! Now we're getting somewhere. You mean the kind that says things like " I gained 20 pounds on Tribex, believe me!' Or " I took some Cybergenics and now I'm RIPPED!" Or...

I can't blame them. Trying to make sense to kids who just want to antagonize is very frustrating. The sad part is, this little group is about three percent of the board. But even a small gang can...

Umm, yeah, that didn't really answer my question. It also didn't disprove my original statement (which you were so eager to point out) nor did add much insight at all.

Bascially what is being...

Thank you Chuck for showing your class and professionalism.

I wonder what would have happened if I'd said something like that? But wait, I'm the whipping boy so it's alright -- which brings us...

Thank you Chuck for showing your class and professionalism.

I wonder what would have happened if I'd said something like that? But wait, I'm the whipping boy so it's alright -- which brings us...

How so? Really, I'm very interested. In your opinion, what would you say would be the average muscle gain over a 6 month period with the use of an additional 10 grams of luicine a day? I'd like...

What can I say? Those are all lies. And here we go --- back and forth.

And the mods have got to go back and forth with us? That's absurd. This is why I'm afraid it'll never be resolved.
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OkeeDokee, well, it's become apparent that we're going to have to re-hash this nonsense all over again. The antagonists have poked their head out.

Bignbuff; I don't want to run to a mod every...

Leucine is present in a high protein diet. Sure, you can't say more is necessarily "bad", it's hardly a neccesity though and the advantages are nominal at best.

Hey, we're a PROTEIN company!~ We...

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I work for a protein comapny so take it for what it's worth. Nightime protein formulas are BULLSH*T.

Just use a slow absorbing milk based protein like micellar casein. Cottage cheese is...

Thank You BignBuff.

Yeah, it's a little like Dodge City here. Anything goes, but I'm okay with it. I'd rather have it be a free- for- all than having mods coming in closing threads that just get...

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Both have merit, but there are a lot of others things to spend your money on . (rent comes to mind)

Out of all the people who used it, let me ask you this; Over the course of one year,...

More than 50 mgs of zinc a day for a prolonged period can build up to toxic levels -- it won't kill you, but there will be toxicity. If you take a multi, that's usually 15mgs and you probably get...

The answer is nothing. Learn about what kind of training your body responds best to. Eat clean, emphasizing protein. Get enough rest. It's pretty simple. After a while, once you want to knock...