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    Op don't take advice from some dickhead who...

    Op don't take advice from some dickhead who thinks leg press is for women and pussies....
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    Diet effects body composition more than a...

    Diet effects body composition more than a routine....

    Also including cardio is a good idea for overweight beginners! Heavy inactive people generally have a **** workload capacity and conditioning.
  • Eric lilliebridge trains only 2 main workouts a...

    Eric lilliebridge trains only 2 main workouts a week.

    Stan effeding only trained twice a week when he set his raw world record.

    So is it optimal who knows..... Can it be very effective, yes
  • Frequency is NOT a fault in most peoples...

    Frequency is NOT a fault in most peoples training... If one finds they recover better and maintain more consistent progress training a muscle less frequently, then who is anybody to say their...
  • Completely agreed. Well higher frequency does...

    Completely agreed. Well higher frequency does look better on paper, you can't argue the results people get from utilizing lower frequency training.

    People like ed coan and kirk trained rather...
  • IMO opinion what he's saying is don't **** with...

    IMO opinion what he's saying is don't **** with HIS templates, do them as written which I agree with. But if someone has at least enough common sense to lay out a sensible setup what's wrong with...
  • Given that 5/3/1 is basically a set out...

    Given that 5/3/1 is basically a set out progression scheme and not a cookie cutter routine how is this not 5/3/1??

    You don't have to follow wendlers exact templates to be doing 5/3/1. He has...
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    Who said front squatting will lead to a...

    Who said front squatting will lead to a disproportionate leg? Are you incapable of training hamstring in a way that they don't fall behind ur quads?
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    wtf I don't get this **** anymore?? Regardless...

    wtf I don't get this **** anymore??

    Regardless if you agree with it it not everyone knows what people mean when they refer to clean foods... Foods that aren't heavily processed like mcdonalds,...
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    You should not be giving advice if you think...

    You should not be giving advice if you think front squats are not a bodybuilding exercise. They are great for quad size and strength....
  • Bull**** tons of people make great gains hitting...

    Bull**** tons of people make great gains hitting the big 3 on there own specific days. Your also obviously not very strong if you can deadlift 4x a week....
  • Yes it was.

    Yes it was.
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    No one yet has came up with one compelling...

    No one yet has came up with one compelling argument as to why bb rows are better than db rows for strengthening your back. The best you and the other idiot could come up with is that it uses more...
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    Sorry the poster above you is who I was referring...

    Sorry the poster above you is who I was referring to.
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    Only if you want. I don't train calves directly....

    Only if you want. I don't train calves directly. If they started drastically falling behind the rest of my leg, then yeah I would.

    Also to the poster above me no calve work is not very important...
  • No I was agreeing with you mate. It's an easily...

    No I was agreeing with you mate. It's an easily adaptable program to higher or low volume. There are also templates from the original book. That cover both styles.
  • People claiming 5/3/1 is a lower volume routine...

    People claiming 5/3/1 is a lower volume routine must have missed half the templates in the original book...
    BBB
    Bodybuilding template
    And Dave Tate's periodization bible inspired template.
    ...
  • I'm my op I said beginners could progress at a...

    I'm my op I said beginners could progress at a faster rate! My example was based on someone having run ss or similar for a period of time.

    I never told a rank beginner to use 5/3/1 you must have...
  • Some templates are lower volume, there are also...

    Some templates are lower volume, there are also higher volume templates. Please post examples of people who have progressed a lot faster than my example in the op. Once past the absolute beginner...
  • I said that this will not happen for a lot of...

    I said that this will not happen for a lot of people, yet people actually count this as slow progress.

    I could also go on YouTube and find tons of powerlifter that hit the main lifts once a...
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