is keto dangerous my grl freind was telling me that keto can be daingerous is that true are there any cases of people getting sick and aslo am i gonna loose all my energy when on keto...
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is keto dangerous my grl freind was telling me that keto can be daingerous is that true are there any cases of people getting sick and aslo am i gonna loose all my energy when on keto...
I have a question about this diet. Would it be safe to combine this diet with a suppliment such as Xenadrine (either form of) to help speed up the fat loss?
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Tunahaji [/i]
[B]i have just a few questions to clarify. i'd call what i'm currently doing a "low-carb" diet. i drink milk with my protein shakes. and i might eat some high fiber veggies. is the state of ketosis something that takes several days to achieve with ZERO carbs in your system - thus the week cycle. or is ketosis a state that varies (from zero carbs to a low amount of carbs) and that can be entered quite quickly - say as soon as the carbs in your system are burned up. i'm pretty big and at 13% bf, so my cutting phase isn't an emergency of weight loss. is it sort of "all or nothing" where if i don't follow the strict keto diet with zero milk during the week and then the loading phase i'm getting no results.....or is it just that this is the MOST effective low carb/no carb diet but that lowering your carbs drastically in general also produces results. [/B][/QUOTE]
To get into Ketosis you need 48hrs+ with almost no carbs (< 15g or so per day). Takes that long to empty the body stores. Why not just junk the milk? 13% ain't so bad, I'm stuck at 17%
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by adonis [/i]
[B]it sounds very viable, especially with the weekend carbup
I am skeptical about the mass consumption of saturated fats...
my dad had a stroke some time ago and its not something I would like to experience (I doubt I will as I am very active and he was sedentary) [/B][/QUOTE]
I wouldn't worry about it, don't let the establishment brainwash you with their high-carb/low-fat mantra. Have a quick stop by [url]http://www.atkinscenter.com[/url] and check out teh article from the New York Times "A Big Fat Lie"
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by adonis [/i]
[B]I am seriously gonna give this diet a shot
how does this sound:
[snip]
i'll work out proper weight totals etc asap [/B][/QUOTE]
Why just egg-white? The yolk is almost the perfect food source...sure it contains 10g of fat and some cholesterol, but your wasting the best part. honest.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by RHINO [/i]
[B]Seems to me that if you have a post workout drink with carbs, which is used to replenish muscle glycogen, you wouldn't need the carb up on the weekend, since your muscle glycogen wouldn't need to be replenished. You could just stick with zero carbs throughout the whole diet (excluding the post workout drink of ~30 g. carbs). I think it would be beneficial to cut out the carb up period; I was on a CKD for about 3 months; I followed it very strictly and lost some fat, but I definitely feel that the weekend carb-ups limited my fat loss.
One thing that I don't think has been mentioned is that if you do a keto diet, you NEED a fiber supplement or you will be in pain. It's absolutely necessary. Konsyl brand works the best because it has practically zero digestable carbs, whereas Metamucil and other brands have carbs. It's a bit expensive, but it is definitely worth it. [/B][/QUOTE]
1. Post workout, protein only (as close as possible anyway).
2. The whole point is to empty the body stores of glycogen and switch into fat burning during the week.
3. The weekend is to refill the stores tp pervent muscle being burnt off.
4. cut out the carb up if you want, you just stay in ketosis all the time. I did that for 9 months, lost 51lbs of fat (hooray), but by my body-scales (Tanita, fat measuring) I also lost 19lbs muscle.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by brooklyn mike [/i]
[B]i wanna try keto and i know every one says it works i just feel so dirty eating like that i feel like not healthy but then again ive always stuglled with my weight and ive never looked cut in my life even when i dieted and weighed 140 pounds....can u eat any veggtables...and should u try to stay away from fried stiff or what?... [/B][/QUOTE]
You've been brainwashed by the establishment that fat is bad for you. We have evovled to eat meat, fish etc as the main source of food. It is only the last hundred years or so that sugar, refined carbs (white flour etc) came along. Also in the last hundred years things like diabetes, heart disease, heart attacks have become major killers. Coincidence?
Any dark green vegetables are ok - stuff like brocolli, kale etc.
Fry whatever you like, good way to get more fat..
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by brooklyn mike [/i]
[B]is keto dangerous my grl freind was telling me that keto can be daingerous is that true are there any cases of people getting sick and aslo am i gonna loose all my energy when on keto... [/B][/QUOTE]
You are thinking of ketoacidosis that diabetics experience, *that* is bad for you, this type of ketosis isn't. Stop by [url]http://www.atkinscenter.com[/url] and read up about it or check out your local Barnes & Noble in the dietary section.
You will find you have far *more* energy....
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by DIABLO [/i]
[B]I have a question about this diet. Would it be safe to combine this diet with a suppliment such as Xenadrine (either form of) to help speed up the fat loss? [/B][/QUOTE]
I'm doing both...still here to tell the tale ;-)
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by hokkers999 [/i]
[B]
I'm doing both...still here to tell the tale ;-) [/B][/QUOTE]
....LOL.... Thanks.
what supplements should i take..like should i still take flax oil and shouls i start a eca..
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by brooklyn mike [/i]
[B]what supplements should i take..like should i still take flax oil and shouls i start a eca.. [/B][/QUOTE]
its definetly helps to throw those into the mix!
Blindfaith
My friend is starting a diet soon and he's depending on me to tell him what to do. He's about 230 lbs real high bf, do you think this would work better for him than say a 40-40-20 diet.
What was the final verdict on the postworkout meal. Carbs in it or no carbs after workout?
hi gi carbs like whey protein with grape juice...
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Avelino [/i]
[B]Blindfaith
My friend is starting a diet soon and he's depending on me to tell him what to do. He's about 230 lbs real high bf, do you think this would work better for him than say a 40-40-20 diet.
What was the final verdict on the postworkout meal. Carbs in it or no carbs after workout? [/B][/QUOTE]
i personally like the 40-30-30 diet...this is a good well rounded diet that you can eat lots of different things. You can lose some really good weight with this but you can also plateau at it too. The keto will countinue to burn fat untill there is none left.
IMO the keto diet something that you can do for 6-8 weeks...but its not something long term by any means...the 40-30-30 is a diet that you can consistenly do for the rest of your life. I switch back and forth between the two every so often...im either doing one or the other 90% of the time....the other 10% im travelling and i eat when i can.
As far as the post workout shakes are concerned i look at it this way...keto=no carbs so therefore stay away from them! my shake consists of 1 scoop of whey isolate, 2tbsp of natural penut butter, 1.5tbsp of olive oil and a cup of water. There is very few carbs in here and is about 500-600 cals.
hope this helps!
cheers
I am @ 13% bf right now and would like to get to 8% for my wedding in Hawaii. What kind of fat rebound does one experience when coming off this diet? Will I gain more fat than I previously had?
repsect
the first time i ever did a keto diet...i lost like 30lbs in a month...went from 250-217...and after that i just ate whatever....3 months later i was 257lbs...i gained it all back and more! its different for everyone...i say stick with it right up to a few days before your wedding and then eat whatever until u get back from your honeymoon. That should limit u from too much reboud weight.
cheers!
and congrats on getting married!
I'm sure this has been posted somewhere already, but what they hey.
Is Keto a good Idea for bulking? If so could someone outline the calories needed and any changes which should be made?
PS: Yes, I'm one of those "scared to lose my abs while bulking" bbuilders and not ashamed of it.
keto is for losing the chunks not gaining weight.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Blindfaith [/i]
[B]keto is for losing the chunks not gaining weight. [/B][/QUOTE]
Actually you can gain muscle mass while on a keto bulking. Search for fitnessman's posts on bulking ketos.
Basically, you eat loads of fat, and go for a carb-load.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Blindfaith [/i]
[B]stay away from milk, and any vegitable with seeds in it [/B][/QUOTE]
how safe are jalepenos on keto???
So what you are telling me is that I have to EAT FAT TO LOOSE FAT???? (on that diet) You would think that if you ATE FAT TO LOOSE FAT, you would get fatter...
so basically you are telling me, all I have to do really is limit the carbs...eat lots of protien....and of course exercize....and I will loose lots of weight?
I have been struggling to loose weight for years.....I am like a yo-yo. I go up and I go down.
I am 6-1
I was at 178 in June....Now I am 189. I will estimate my bf..i think it is like 15-18% Something like that....
ehh....this is worth a try, and it sounds like an easy and effective diet.... all give it a go.
Dan
yup just follow the diet and exercise plan and you should be good to go!
Thanks blindfaith... I am not at Ketois yet...but i hope to be there in a couple of days. I bought the Ketostix...18 dollars for 100.
I'll post my progress in the future.
Dan
For 3 days now i have been in Ketois. The food is great, only problem being is the fact that im getting sick of drinking water and protein shakes. Can anybody suggest a drink besides water that is low in carbs that you usually drink while on a keto diet.
Much Appreciated ,
Getting thirsty for a reply
crystal lite and diet cola
Protein, water, and lipids...what about your vits and mins?
I would say a minimum of a multi, maybe a little Chromium.. I would have to say crystal light fits the bill
i would think that this thread deserves some stars beside it...what do u guys think??? come on fitnessman hook it up!
peace
True it does seem to have a bunch of answers to life's little questions in it... :D plus the author has been kinda helpful from time to time
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Blindfaith [/i]
[B]
IMO the keto diet something that you can do for 6-8 weeks...but its not something long term by any means...
[/B][/QUOTE]
I'm curiuous as to why you think you can't eat keto year round?Why just 6-8 weeks?
Fitnessman stays in ketosis year round(except for traveling/vacations he noted) and he also bulks on keto.
me and fitnessman have different views on the keto diet...me personally i cant do it for more than 6-8 weeks because i feel like crap on it...i eat unhealthy food period. A balanced diet that consists of plenty of fruits, veggies, wheats, grains, lean proteins etc is a healthy diet.
On my keto days...im trying to add some more greens.
But the bottom line is that keto works great for fat loss! straight up the best for burning off unwanted fat....is it healthy for you!??!?! well thats still and always will be debatable from every point of view.
hey guys, i was curious if this would be acceptable to eat on a keto diet.
its called "duo amici pasta lite" low carb pasta
iper serving of 2oz dry it has
160 cal
1g fat
10 carbs
3g sugar
7g dietary fiber
28 protein
from what i understand dietary fiber doesnt count in total carb count therefore it actually has 3g of carbs.
i found this at a healthfood store for 4 dollars, but today i found it at big lots for 79 cents, lets just say i bought about 2o dollars worth today, and this stuff tastes great. use a little olive oil to get your fats and sautee some onions and garlic with some cheese mmmmmmmmm..................
how soon after a bulking phase should i start the keto diet. I thought about taking a week off after i bulk, then start the keto diet. anybody have any experience with doin this?
start it up whenever you feel like it....a week break from dieting is good.
im 17 and 171 lbs!!! i dont have much fat (yes im one of those annoying people who wants to get rid of that ab fat...)
i wana lose about 4 lbs and i think ill be set and i think itll take my bf to around 8-9%!!!
I used bb.com to calculate my bmr and it was 2950 cals a day... it seems like abit much even for maintanince... which ends up to be 2450 a day for weightloss....
I did everything your first post said and i came up with my fat to protein ration as 75:35 ... and that seems way to much!!!
Could u help me out??? wats the best ratio etc???
the way i do keto others might not nessessarily do....i just eat mcdonalds and BK all day (throw away the buns of the burgers of course) and i only take in carbs for my post workout shake...i just make sure that my fat intake is high and my carb intake is almost nill.
im desperatley trying to get under 10% bf. Im at 11-12 now and have been for a while. Id like to go on a low carb diet and after reading this, i think id like to try the keto diet. so let me see if i got this straight...
so, no carbs all all week, laod up friday and saturday, work out hard....
what about milk? can you drink milk? On atkins you cant, but you can mix cream with water to make milk like substance. Is that ok for keto? I need milk with my protien shakes. And can you list OK veggies? i heard green beans, squash, lettuce, zucchini are ok, but what else? i cant live on meat and cheese alone.
what about alcohol. Im a fan of a couple of cocktails on the weekend (college and all) I know alcohol is a no no, but is there a type or brand thats the lesser of the evils? That new ultra beer, vodka, wine, something? Please let me know.
milk is a definete no no! as far as veggies go...anything green is good.
Alcohol should be left for friday and saturdays...dont have any during the week.
wannabebig.com has a interview with Lyle McDonald up, the proclaimed Keto authority. He basically says in the interview that Keto diets are no better then carb diets. He says it is basically calories vs. calories out. He also states that a keto diet does promote more fat oxidation but the high levels of dietary fat offset this.
So what do you think. I am currently on my second week of a keto diet and I think when monday comes around and I drop to low cals I am gonna try a ration of 60/40 or 50/50. See if that works better. I would recommend checking out that interview [url]www.wannabebig.com[/url] Kind of dissapointing.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by pitbullmuscle [/i]
[B]wannabebig.com has a interview with Lyle McDonald up, the proclaimed Keto authority. He basically says in the interview that Keto diets are no better then carb diets. He says it is basically calories vs. calories out. He also states that a keto diet does promote more fat oxidation but the high levels of dietary fat offset this.
So what do you think. I am currently on my second week of a keto diet and I think when monday comes around and I drop to low cals I am gonna try a ration of 60/40 or 50/50. See if that works better. I would recommend checking out that interview [url]www.wannabebig.com[/url] Kind of dissapointing. [/B][/QUOTE]
i read that interview about a month ago...very good one indeed! But he also does mention that keto is still definetly the way to go! I have had sucess on a 40-30-30 type of diet and i have had better sucess with the keto.
I guess its what you prefer...with the 40-30-30 diet i usually hit a plateau after about 8 weeks....with the keto i dont hit a plateau at all. When im doing a keto diet i usually eat maybe about 1800-2000 cals...so when you do a restricted cal diet...no matter what kind...you are going to lose weight. With carb diets...i am always hungry, never satisfied, and always craving some nachoes or pizza etc. With the keto...i sometimes forget to eat and have to remind myself that perhaps i should be eating something. I never have cravings and my energy level is insane! i cant explain it but i have as much energy as if i were on eca...but without actually taking an eca...its pretty sweet.
But anyways definetly try other kinds of diet...manipulate your carb or protein intakes...there isnt just one diet out there...try em all...i have.
cheers
ok here's a ques... if you do cardio in the morning and workout in the afternoon... d u need to drink the 30g whey and 30 g carb 2 times?
no just do it after your weights
Im not sure if this has been answered be4...
do those 30-50 grams of carbs......HAVE to come from vegetables? How about rice, bread, bran or oatmeal?
another quiery...
if i do cardio....shud i have some sugary carbs after it...even though im in ketosis? And should THOSE carbs be counted for the day?
yes they should come from veggies because they dont affect your insuling....if you have something like bread or something sugary...it will take you outta ketosis so fast!
Fitness man recommends having a post workout shake consisting of OJ and whey protein.
wow blind faith, i am new to this area of bb.com and just eat lots of protein with minimal fat and carbs, i pretty much wing it and i am in good shape, almost:-). You have me intriegd! can you post a link to a good source on this diet? it would be greatly appriciated!
thnx,
please excuse my ignorance
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Special_K [/i]
[B]wow blind faith, i am new to this area of bb.com and just eat lots of protein with minimal fat and carbs, i pretty much wing it and i am in good shape, almost:-). You have me intriegd! can you post a link to a good source on this diet? it would be greatly appriciated!
thnx,
please excuse my ignorance [/B][/QUOTE]
here you go!
[url]http://low-carb.org/faq/[/url]
cheers
thanks a lot bro