Why do I keep binging...

because you don't want it bad enough
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any hot bish is my motivation.

[QUOTE=nabokov7;836169171]Being tetchy over somebody telling you they have reservations as to whether you may be adding your calories up correctly is churlish. I've said so in a very considered manner - I'm not going to pour molasses into the palms of your hands. Appreciate that some of the advice you will receive in this forum is very direct and honest (read that to mean "useful"). I see some others have posted their thoughts rather more colourfully à la "punch yourself in the balls".

To respond to your counterpoint: the point of a cheat day is to "cheat". That doesn't mean you lose all sense and hammer down beyond reason a feast. If your training and routine is not teaching you discipline and if you're not learning to appreciate what you need rather than what you want, then there are people out there doing better than you. Accept that.

And I never belittled your knowledge - I simply raised the possibility you may be counting your calories incorrectly (something we all have done to varying degrees and especially when starting out). However, as you have already taken offence: if you find you don't know even the approximate caloric value of foods you choose to gorge on your cheat days, your knowledge IS lacking. Put a piece of cheese I regularly eat in front of me and I'll give you a pretty good approximation of how many calories it contains.[/QUOTE]
I have nothing to say except sorry. I count my calories and know HOW to, am able to estimate pretty accurately for things I don't even look at. But honestly, when I binge I have a hard time recalling what I eat. It's worse than most would think. Today my scale broke 200.2lbs. I know a lot of it is water-weight from a 2 day onslaught, but this is changing it for sure. I haven't seen 200 in a while, that actually pissed me off.

Anyway, sorry, didn't mean to have this happen. Thanks for the brutal honesty.

[QUOTE=kc_shuffle;836169531]You don't want it bad enough. Simple as That. When you want it as badly as you want to breathe then, and only then will you achieve what you set out to achieve

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I don't really find motivation or inspiration from a video, I've seen it already. But thanks. I'm doing this strictly for myself, and the ones I promised for when I was obese at 260lbs.
[QUOTE=IgboMeso;836179491]I had some appetite problems in the past. You have to focus more on eating real foods and high volume meals. Massive salads, huge plates of broccoli and cauliflower. Maybe even 200grams of oats pwo. Of your stomach is full with healthy food, there won't be space for other stuff.[/QUOTE]
I can literally keep eating till it hurts, I don't think veggies could really put a dent in my stomach :\.. Thanks though, I've thought of this before too :p.

[QUOTE=YouMadDawg;836204751]because you don't want it bad enough
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any hot bish is my motivation.[/QUOTE]
I don't work out or aim for visible abs for women. I'm not desperate for pussy nor is it a priority of mine. I'd rather have a girl I can call mine and to have good moments. I strictly work out for myself and the ones I promised for.

Thanks a lot guys. Today I'm giving IIFYM a try. I'll get 166g of protein from my 3 regular scoops of whey, 12oz of chicken breast total, and 1 cup of cottage cheese. This leaves me with 930cals to eat whatever I like and to be honest I'm having a hard time thinking of what to fill those calories with lol.

Is 166g of protein enough for my weight(192lbs now..)? I'll be getting random amounts from the 930 calories I have to use up too so maybe like 180g of protein. I'll be cutting at 1900 calories for 2 weeks, I'll adjust accordingly to see if I need to go lower(Hopefully not..).

[QUOTE=StitchT;836223001]I have nothing to say except sorry. I count my calories and know HOW to, am able to estimate pretty accurately for things I don't even look at. But honestly, when I binge I have a hard time recalling what I eat. It's worse than most would think. Today my scale broke 200.2lbs. I know a lot of it is water-weight from a 2 day onslaught, but this is changing it for sure. I haven't seen 200 in a while, that actually pissed me off.

Anyway, sorry, didn't mean to have this happen. Thanks for the brutal honesty. [/QUOTE]

No offence taken or intended - a lot of people post to simply help and provide another perspective. Good luck with the fat loss - the progress pictures will be good to see when you succeed.

[QUOTE=nabokov7;836234331]No offence taken or intended - a lot of people post to simply help and provide another perspective. Good luck with the fat loss - the progress pictures will be good to see when you succeed.[/QUOTE]

Thanks there :). What are your goals as of now?

StitchT, you're going to hate this, but here's some brutality. You are talking about your "binging" like it's a disability, a medical disorder. It's not. It's a psychological weakness that you can overcome as soon as you recognize it for what it is. It's a shortcoming, and as soon as you identify what triggers it, you can avoid it. In a month, you will easily resist the urge. In 3 months you won't even have to.

The next time you are sitting there dipping a chicken leg into a tub of Hershey's syrup, don't think "Oh well, I'm binging again". Think "What the **** am I doing?" Quit enabling your bad habit.

[QUOTE=JVRICHARDS;835876311] eating a tub of Ben and Jerry's using a Snickers as a spoon[/QUOTE]

How have I not had this idea before???

I've gone through it man, when I was on something like 1800 calories a day and overestimating more often than not, at that. Too restrictive. I feel for you, but the tough love others have given is really the only advice that's worth anything in my opinion. You need to realize that there's nothing predetermined. Stop using the binges as a crutch, it's not an illness, just a weakness. Weaknesses can be cured. Maybe go listen to some egotistical-as-**** rap and get in the zone - there's a reason so many arrogant douche bags are ripped as all hell. They know they have the power/ability to resist and overcome whatever they need to do in order to reach their goals. We can all learn from them (half joking half serious).

[QUOTE=JVRICHARDS;836300491]StitchT, you're going to hate this, but here's some brutality. You are talking about your "binging" like it's a disability, a medical disorder. It's not. It's a psychological weakness that you can overcome as soon as you recognize it for what it is. It's a shortcoming, and as soon as you identify what triggers it, you can avoid it. In a month, you will easily resist the urge. In 3 months you won't even have to.

The next time you are sitting there dipping a chicken leg into a tub of Hershey's syrup, don't think "Oh well, I'm binging again". Think "What the **** am I doing?" Quit enabling your bad habit.[/QUOTE]
You're 100% right, and I don't hate it. I just don't understand why all of a sudden, after losing 70lbs this weakness started. I hate chicken legs lool. You're exactly right on the "Oh well, I'm binging again", I say it exactly like that in my head. Pathetic! I'm taking your advice on the IIFYM. I'll still be able to attain 180g of protein on average which will be good enough for me, I hope!

[QUOTE=Anthonyxavcx;836317611]I've gone through it man, when I was on something like 1800 calories a day and overestimating more often than not, at that. Too restrictive. I feel for you, but the tough love others have given is really the only advice that's worth anything in my opinion. You need to realize that there's nothing predetermined. Stop using the binges as a crutch, it's not an illness, just a weakness. Weaknesses can be cured. Maybe go listen to some egotistical-as-**** rap and get in the zone - there's a reason so many arrogant douche bags are ripped as all hell. They know they have the power/ability to resist and overcome whatever they need to do in order to reach their goals. We can all learn from them (half joking half serious).[/QUOTE]

I have no problem of getting in the zone, I love the gym. Just the binges, but, you're right. I'm going to try harder than ever.

Thanks a lot everyone!

Where is op now

[QUOTE=smb43432;1070655911]Where is op now[/QUOTE]

getting lean as hell now, which is the funny thing. he got his stuff together and found something that works for him.

cool - wish he would post some current pics....bet he is proud now!! and probably no more binging!