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Hopefully you ArA lovers are getting in on the BOGO promo going on right now!
[QUOTE=SwolenONE;629730773]Hopefully you ArA lovers are getting in on the BOGO promo going on right now![/QUOTE]
Holy sht, where? I don't see it in the BB.com store.
[QUOTE=SwolenONE;629730773]Hopefully you ArA lovers are getting in on the BOGO promo going on right now![/QUOTE]
Fuming right now, FUMING, that last night I bought a bottle of XFA to complete the 50 day cycle.
[QUOTE=Saintly;629735203]Holy sht, where? I don't see it in the BB.com store.[/QUOTE]
Doooooode!
[url]http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=131838113[/url]
Thanks man!
Unfortunately, the earliest I'll be able to do a log is summer as I'm pretty busy this semester. Definitely an insane promo though!
...and apparently gel caps aren't allowed on the plane. I'm going home for spring break, lol.
[QUOTE=Mr.Cooper69;629727943]Sorry if I missed this in the thread, but how much GMS should be taken with XFA?[/QUOTE]
Would like to know as well. I'm currently taking ~2g pure GMS with my ArA but that is only based on the container saying to take 2g 30 mins pre lol
[QUOTE=whitesox23;629775853]Would like to know as well. I'm currently taking ~2g pure GMS with my ArA but that is only based on the container saying to take 2g 30 mins pre lol[/QUOTE]
You'll still get all the effects of your 2g GMS (functionally on its own and to intercalate the lipid) 45-60 minutes pre-workout with ArA.
[QUOTE=PinchTheBear;629808533]You'll still get all the effects of your 2g GMS (functionally on its own and to intercalate the lipid) 45-60 minutes pre-workout with ArA.[/QUOTE]
So is 2g enough? And you're saying push it back to like 45 mins pre? I dose the ArA ~1/2 hour pre...
[QUOTE=whitesox23;629963873]So is 2g enough?[/quote]
Yes.
[QUOTE=whitesox23;629963873]And you're saying push it back to like 45 mins pre? I dose the ArA ~1/2 hour pre...[/QUOTE]
A half hour is absolutely fine. Keep doing what you're doing. neuron recommends 45-60 minutes pre-workout in the OP, but even immediately before is also fine.
[QUOTE=PinchTheBear;629971143]Yes.
A half hour is absolutely fine. Keep doing what you're doing. neuron recommends 45-60 minutes pre-workout in the OP, but even immediately before is also fine.[/QUOTE]
So 2g GMS, 1g LCLT, and I decided I'm also going to take TTA with it. One last question for ya pinch:
How much TTA should be taken with XFA and how should the dose be timed? Preworkout witht he XFA or throughout the day.
Appreciate all the help you've given in this thread, reps for life.
[QUOTE=Mr.Cooper69;629986073]So 2g GMS, 1g LCLT, and I decided I'm also going to take TTA with it. One last question for ya pinch:
How much TTA should be taken with XFA and how should the dose be timed? Preworkout witht he XFA or throughout the day.
Appreciate all the help you've given in this thread, reps for life.[/QUOTE]
Agreed on thanks for Pinch. Sorry for unaware, but what is LCLT and TTA and their benefits with ArA?
[QUOTE=whitesox23;629986983]Agreed on thanks for Pinch. Sorry for unaware, but what is LCLT and TTA and their benefits with ArA?[/QUOTE]
LCLT is L-carnitine which I'm sure you know. should reduce thrombotic pathways if I'm not mistaken. TTA is used in fat burners and can aid in recomp.
Pinch, I found my answer...2 g TTA. My remaining question is [I]when should this be dosed?[/I]
[QUOTE=whitesox23;629986983]Agreed on thanks for Pinch. Sorry for unaware, but what is LCLT and TTA and their benefits with ArA?[/QUOTE]
LCLT = l-carnitine-l-tartrate
TTA = tetradecylthioacetic acid
Reasoning for carnitine: [url]http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=509917673&postcount=98[/url]
I don't know if neuron said anything about TTA, but I guess it could be purported here to negatively influence triglyceride delivery to skeletal muscle, therein potentiating, ArA --(LPL)--> skeletal muscle. Not really an issue during exercise, though, regarding lipid metabolism.
[QUOTE=Mr.Cooper69;629989953]
Pinch, I found my answer...2 g TTA. My remaining question is [I]when should this be dosed?[/I][/QUOTE]
With everything else.
Curious those that have used multiple cyles of XFA...what's the longest you've run it? I know 50 is the 'recommended' and mostly used...but wondering what 75 would do (or has done for those who've done it) as far as gains? and any negatives...?
I did 2 scoops of Aminocell (which has GMS as part of its proprietary 10.5 g blend profile) all intra today (along with some added AA/BCAA's)....had a very bitter taste, GMS? Anyone have any idea what the approx amt of GMS per serving is by chance?
Oh sweet, im glad I found this thread and the fact that there is a thread of this nature here. This will cut down on the countless hours of searching id have to do otherwise.
[QUOTE=schizm76;630159533]Curious those that have used multiple cyles of XFA...what's the longest you've run it? I know 50 is the 'recommended' and mostly used...but wondering what 75 would do (or has done for those who've done it) as far as gains? and any negatives...?
I did 2 scoops of Aminocell (which has GMS as part of its proprietary 10.5 g blend profile) all intra today (along with some added AA/BCAA's)....had a very bitter taste, GMS? Anyone have any idea what the approx amt of GMS per serving is by chance?[/QUOTE]
I believe neuron said its better to do a high dose short cycle vs a low dose long cycle.
It should have enough gms... but then again wr dont know :(
[QUOTE=Hyruliangoat;630247683]I believe neuron said its better to do a high dose short cycle vs a low dose long cycle.
It should have enough gms... but then again wr dont know :([/QUOTE]
'high dose short cycle'...you referring to XFA? If yes... I was thinking more along the lines of maintaining recommended dosing...but just extended run...
...cool deal on the aminocell...I'll stick with the 2 scoops...and might shoot an email to a nutrabolics rep or something just out of curiosity...
XFA stacked with a (high quality) Ecdy product.....discuss. pros/cons?
I recall mixel having someone run both products w/i the blueprint and having awesome results...
[QUOTE=schizm76;630331133]XFA stacked with a (high quality) Ecdy product.....discuss. pros/cons?
I recall mixel having someone run both products w/i the blueprint and having awesome results...[/QUOTE]
i think they're totally unrelated, and i really dont buy into ecdy, but i could be wrong
About to pull the trigger on XFA...is the BOGO still on btw?
[QUOTE=Hyruliangoat;630247683]I believe neuron said its better to do a high dose short cycle vs a low dose long cycle.
It should have enough gms... but then again wr dont know :([/QUOTE]
Yeah he did, or at least megadosing in the beginning of the cycle then just maintaining ArA levels later on. Kind of like creatine loading, but actually logical ;)
Mhm with the xfa!
I personally like ebol and i trust thermolife wirh their products.
And ok good thanks for clearinf that up :p
Just pulled the trigger....in4 gains! I will also be logging with before/after pics. Thread soon to come this weekend as I am really busy studying for exams coming up.
[QUOTE=Mr.Cooper69;630398923]i think they're totally unrelated, and i really dont buy into ecdy, but i could be wrong[/QUOTE]
From what I've read about ecdy, I was thinking they were unrelated too...the only 'red' flags that went up were reading that Mixel (the ecdy guru) stated that ecdy has potent anti-inflammatory properties...and then 'finally' coming across that aspect of it after googling for a little bit...however dacookie had good gains combining the 2...and SwolenOne thinks it'd be a good stack...
[QUOTE=PinchTheBear;629997103]LCLT = l-carnitine-l-tartrate
TTA = tetradecylthioacetic acid
Reasoning for carnitine: [url]http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=509917673&postcount=98[/url]
I don't know if neuron said anything about TTA, but I guess it could be purported here to negatively influence triglyceride delivery to skeletal muscle, therein potentiating, ArA --(LPL)--> skeletal muscle. Not really an issue during exercise, though, regarding lipid metabolism.
[/QUOTE]
Years ago some people ran X-factor with DCP. I'm guessing there are some logs either here or at AM.
Yeah it with DCP would probably be a good stack of two quality products. With all the talk of avoiding anti-inflammitories, why is it that MN put some in the reformulated XFA? There are some added minerals, but there is also Boswellia resin and Omega-3's?? What was their reasoning behind this? XFA also has gotten better reviews over the original XF which is just pure ArA
X Factor Advanced: [url]http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/mn/x-factor-advanced.html?MCID=F-GOOG-MN025[/url]
X Factor: [url]http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/mn/xfactor.html[/url]
[QUOTE=whitesox23;631564153]Yeah it with DCP would probably be a good stack of two quality products. With all the talk of avoiding anti-inflammitories, why is it that MN put some in the reformulated XFA? There are some added minerals, but there is also Boswellia resin and Omega-3's?? What was their reasoning behind this? XFA also has gotten better reviews over the original XF which is just pure Ara[/QUOTE]
The boswellia and omega-3 is there to basically make sure that the proper inflammatory pathways are stimulated and to reduce/eliminate the presence of side effects.
Man, could you imagine stacking X-Factor Advanced, DCP, Test-Factor, and Triazole :eek: That would be an unstoppable total body recomp. I would not be at all surprised to see people rockin 12 lbs of lean mass while melting 3-4% bodyfat by the end of 50 days.
So here is my new XFA stack as of today, are the dosages and timings looking ok?
40 minutes preworkout:
6g Citrulline Malate
1.66g TTA
2.32g GMS
1g LCLT
4 XFA Pills
1 Scoop Ultima + 1 Scoop Pump-bol/6 caps C-Bol
Also, 2.25g Citrulline Malate will be consumed each morning for a daily total of 8.25g CM.
Is this stack looking good in terms of optimizing XFA efficacy?
Finally, I should note that I take 1 cap slin-sane about 2 hours prior to consuming the preworkout concoction listed above.
[QUOTE=G.W. Hayduke;631565383]The boswellia and omega-3 is there to basically make sure that the proper inflammatory pathways are stimulated and to reduce/eliminate the presence of side effects.
Man, could you imagine stacking X-Factor Advanced, DCP, Test-Factor, and Triazole :eek: That would be an unstoppable total body recomp.[/QUOTE]
Side effects being joint pain? And what do you mean stimulate the inflammitory pathways? I thought they reduce inflammation period?
[QUOTE=whitesox23;631568673]Side effects being joint pain? And what do you mean stimulate the inflammitory pathways? I thought they reduce inflammation period?[/QUOTE]
the key word there was proper