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Rate my P/P/L split
My main goals are hypertrophy. Any help is appreciated
Tuesday- Push
Flat BB bench 3x8
Incline DB bench 3x10-12
OHP 3x10 superset w/ cable crossovers x15
Dips 3x10
Skulls 3x12
Wednesday- Pull
Deadlifts 3x5-8
Bent over rows 3x10
T-Bar cable rows 3x12
WG Lat Pulldown 3x10-12
WG/CG EZ curl bar superset 3x8
Hammer incline curls 3x12-15
Shrugs 3x10
Seated Lateral raised 3x12-15
Friday- Legs and abs
Squats 3x8-12
Lunges 3x10
Leg Press 3x8-12
SLDL 3x12
Leg extensions 3x10-15
Standing calf raises superset w/ leg press calf raises 3x10-12
Cable Crunches 3x20
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[QUOTE=dobbyk;1186399551]Bump[/QUOTE]
Look up coolcicadas p/p/l
Better to do a routine that been proven results IMO.
I did it for a while, great routine.
Gl op.
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you're 15. get on a novice routine
[QUOTE=ChupsBB;1186402471]Look up coolcicadas p/p/l
Better to do a routine that been proven results IMO.
I did it for a while, great routine.
Gl op.[/QUOTE]
his routine is filled with overly complex crap and unnecessary volume
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[QUOTE=SamSix;1186403681]you're 15. get on a novice routine
Which one do you recommend?
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[QUOTE=dobbyk;1186625651][QUOTE=SamSix;1186403681]you're 15. get on a novice routine
Which one do you recommend?[/QUOTE]
Lyle mcdonalds bulking routine
ICF 5x5
BLSS
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[QUOTE=Francis333;1186628381][QUOTE=dobbyk;1186625651]
Lyle mcdonalds bulking routine
ICF 5x5
BLSS[/QUOTE]
I did SS for 5 months and I began to find it boring which is why I want to move to P/p/l
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[QUOTE=dobbyk;1186639511][QUOTE=Francis333;1186628381]
I did SS for 5 months and I began to find it boring which is why I want to move to P/p/l[/QUOTE]
what are your lifts? If you're still capable of progressing on it then don't stop.
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[QUOTE=dobbyk;1186639511]
I did SS for 5 months and I began to find it boring which is why I want to move to P/p/l[/QUOTE]
Do a different novice routine then. As Francis said, Babylover's variation of Starting Strength, or Lyle McDonald's Generic Bulking routine. A 3 on 1 off I think isn't something you should graduate to at this point until you've got at least a year of lifting under your belt.
But for what it's worth:
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Tuesday- Push
Flat BB bench 3x8
Incline DB bench 3x10-12
[b]OHP 3x10 superset w/ cable crossovers x15[/b][/QUOTE]
Why. Avoid supersetting OHP and cable crossovers generally. The front delt fatigue will ruin the crossovers and the further front delt fatigue will mess with the presses.
By the way, a superset is technically a back and forward rotation between 2 exercises that are relatively unrelated to each other, ie chin ups and calf raises. Compound sets are the back and forward rotation between two exercises that use the same muscle ie straight bar curls and preacher curls. The latter are generally not a great idea for natural lifters unless you're on your last set and you just want to exhaust a lagging muscle or something.
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Dips 3x10[/QUOTE]
You've got bench, incline, OHP, crossovers... You don't need dips. If you want to work triceps and you've already got as much pressing as you do, use single joint exercises. Adding further unnecessary fatigue to the front delt is pointless. Do pushdowns... Or overhead extensions... Alternate them if you want.
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Skulls 3x12
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Wednesday- Pull[/QUOTE]
Do pull the day after push. No need to take 7 days between hitting a muscle.
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Deadlifts 3x5-8
Bent over rows 3x10
T-Bar cable rows 3x12
WG Lat Pulldown 3x10-12[/QUOTE]
Ideally you'll do 1 row for the lats and 1 row for the inner back, since you only have 1 vertical pull.
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WG/CG EZ curl bar [b]superset[/b] 3x8[/QUOTE]
That will just make you tired and move bi[color=black]tch weight[/color]. Pick one of them.
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Hammer incline curls 3x12-15
Shrugs 3x10
Seated Lateral raised 3x12-15
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Do not forget to train your rear delts.
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Friday- Legs and abs
Squats 3x8-12
Lunges 3x10
Leg Press 3x8-12
SLDL 3x12
Leg extensions 3x10-15
Standing calf raises superset w/ leg press calf raises 3x10-12
Cable Crunches 3x20[/QUOTE]
Maybe this kind of volume would be understandable on a split where you hit each muscle once a week, but you're likely going to benefit more from higher frequency. So...
8 reps should be plenty for squats and lunges. Those exercises aren't exactly suited to straight sets of 'high' reps. On a frequency of hitting each bodypart every 3-4 days, 2 exercises for quads should be fine unless you find your legs to actually lag from this.
Do some leg curls for your hamstrings. You're already hitting them from a hip extension standpoint with regular deadlifts on back day. Focus more on knee flexion here. You could still do SLDL... Just see how you feel and if you think it would be too much or not. But include some leg curls.
Around 10 reps should be fine for abs.
Don't do the calf raise superset crap.
And do push day the day after this. Legs/Push/Pull/Off/Repeat. That way you can squat and deadlift and have a day in between each.
Finally: Alternate some of these rep schemes with more heavy lifting. eg Squat/row/bench for sets of 5 one day, then sets of 8 the next. That sort of thing. Hitting muscles with heavier and lighter weight is the way to go.
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Thanks for the advice. My pull day is after push day btw. I had an upper body routine day that hits rear delts on Saturday. I can't do legs push pull off repeat as I have chit like boxing,football (soccer) and indoor rowing training on designated days of the week so I can only hit each muscle once a week.
My upper body day looks like this
Upper Body Day
Decline BB press 3x8-12
Incline DB press 3x10-12
Incline flies 3x12-15
Lateral raises triple dropset til failure x3
BB rows 3x10-12
Chin ups til failure x3
Rear delt flies 3x13
Dips 3x10
Preacher curls til failure 3x12
I'd appreciate anymore more suggestions and critiques as I know I don't know enough about this kinda thing yet, but thanks man,repped
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If you want to do something like this, you should do P/P/L Rest P/P/L or P/P/L/P/P/L Rest IMO, so if you need to, lower the volume, but work out the muscle twice a week.
Or you could do a Fullbody routine.
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[QUOTE=XCRunner9;1186776301]If you want to do something like this, you should do P/P/L Rest P/P/L or P/P/L/P/P/L Rest IMO, so if you need to, lower the volume, but work out the muscle twice a week.
Or you could do a Fullbody routine.[/QUOTE]
I can only lift 4 days a week though...
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[QUOTE=dobbyk;1186777271]I can only lift 4 days a week though...[/QUOTE]
Lyle Mcdonald's generic bulking routine would likely be the most appropriate thing for you then. It's 4 days a week.
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[QUOTE=dobbyk;1186777271]I can only lift 4 days a week though...[/QUOTE]
upper/lower if you can only lift 4 days a week, use lyle's
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why the **** would superset OHP with flies?
**** sake Davey