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I'd love to hear this answer from a Pro.
If I had to choose I would say Paul Dillet. But he never reached his full potential.
I'd say Flex Wheeler, if he trained harder and didn't make some "mistakes" then he would have been incredible
Flex W
[QUOTE=iroczinoz;13352093]If I had to choose I would say Paul Dillet. But he never reached his full potential.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=BloodnGuts;13352402]I'd say Flex Wheeler[/QUOTE]
Agreed... and best transformation (****ty genetics) would have to be Dexter J (IMO).
Flex wishes he could have had half of Dillet's genetics.
dillet didnt have much of a back...
but thats about it.b
Demayo, Dillet
You can't mesure genetics...they all had different diets, training..... whoever sais one has better genetics is talking ****
I gotta go with Ronnie on this one, the dude only lifting like a year or two hardcore before he became pro and he had crazy arm genetics too
serge neburt or sergio olivia
aside from ht. lee priest has amazing genetics IMO
from head to toe
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[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=3eznHRbEQ9A[/url]
dillet or levrone, imo flex wasn't the genetical God people make him out to be- all of the top 5 of today (victor, anthony, dexter, coleman) except maybe jay- have have better genetics then him.
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/Chefguru/Scan10168.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/Chefguru/pd023sn.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Calfmaster;13354142]dillet or levrone, imo flex wasn't the genetical God people make him out to be.
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O'rly? If having a mutated myostatin gene doesnt mean youre a genetical God, then i dont know what does.
[QUOTE=Vadim Beliaev;13354224]O'rly? If having a mutated myostatin gene doesnt mean youre a genetical God, then i dont know what does.[/QUOTE]
Pretty sure that was false, specially considering it said he had perfect health...
sigh, perfect health and a "bad" myostatin gene arent antonyms. Myostatin stops the body from creating "too much muscle". If the body had too much muscle it would need too much fuel, and from an evolutionary standpoint, humans want to burn the minimal amount of calories so they have to hunt less and have a better chance to survive. Theres a breed of cow without the myostatin gene, i think its the blue something or rather, anyway, this cow has a massive amount of muscle because its myostatin isnt stopping its body from making all that muscle...so flex wheeler and anyone else with a non functioning myostatin gene can still be in perfect health
+1 for Olivia
im gonna say dillet, i read somewhere that people said he trained barely like a model or something... also ronnie he trained for only 2 years and was a beast
[QUOTE=SkeetSkeet;13354778]sigh, perfect health and a "bad" myostatin gene arent antonyms. Myostatin stops the body from creating "too much muscle". If the body had too much muscle it would need too much fuel, and from an evolutionary standpoint, humans want to burn the minimal amount of calories so they have to hunt less and have a better chance to survive. Theres a breed of cow without the myostatin gene, i think its the blue something or rather, anyway, this cow has a massive amount of muscle because its myostatin isnt stopping its body from making all that muscle...so flex wheeler and anyone else with a non functioning myostatin gene can still be in perfect health[/QUOTE]
Thats not what i'm referring to. The article that said he had a different myostatin gene (or lack of) also stated he had perfect health. As we are aware, one of the reasons (if not the reason) he left the sport was due to serious organ problems (specifically his kidneys, which I believe came close to failing). Such a fasle claim helps prove that the atricle was indeed fraudulent. More evidence to support the fact that he didn't have this genetic advatange is that at the moment he looks like crap .According to scientific research, if you don't have the myostatin gene, regardless of your activies you should have very low bf and a large amount of muscle.
I seriously doubt that Flex had any sort of rare genetic mutation that allowed for him to be the bodybuilder he was... he was simply a great bodybuilder of his time period who used a lot of drug.
Calfmaster do you have pics of how Flex looks like now?
[QUOTE=xec;13355225]Calfmaster do you have pics of how Flex looks like now?[/QUOTE]
This isn't a recent photo, but I can't find the one time refering too. You can see though if he actually did actually lack the myostatin gene his bf would be much lower then this and would be closer to his comp size. Realize in this photo it's likely he is working out with weights still, and is obviously doing some sort of trainning.
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/Chefguru/flex.jpg[/IMG]
Example of a cow that lacks the myostatin gene
[img]http://www.pathguy.com/lectures/myostatin_deficient_cow.jpg[/img]
Example of a human baby that lacks the myostatin gene
[img]http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/photos/baby_beefcake_cp_5995886.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Vadim Beliaev;13354224]O'rly? If having a mutated myostatin gene doesnt mean youre a genetical God, then i dont know what does.[/QUOTE]
Say hello to my dad and grandparents for me :D Why are you in Warsaw? j/w
I dont believe its FW, based on one thing, his clavicles sucked! You need huge clavicles, its not something that you can lack. But everything else he had was amazing. I think Brian Buchane is overlooked, the guy had the best waste, huge sweeping lats, great legs for his era, full and peaked biceps, I dont see any weakpoints aside from calves and his look was just sureal. There's no bodybuilder that im more jealous of in the genetics dept.
Bertil Fox
Paul Dillett
Chris Cormier, Victor and Ronnie Coleman at the moment..
Thought Cormier easily beat Jay Cutler at the 2004 AC, hell even Dorian thought so.
Cormier has great size, thickness and the best shape around....Here's Chris Cormier competiting with Flex and Ronnie
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzCENUWMHqg[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pa6n7Fekl_U[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=327B_6y07yk[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rsgH5OLJag[/url]
[QUOTE=The Brotherhood;13355980]Bertil Fox
Paul Dillett[/QUOTE]
Never understood the appeal of Paul Dillet.........Just never cared for his physigue and I can cocnur about his training habits. Quite some time ago I was training at a gym up jersey when Dillet was in town. Ended up doing legs at the same time as him. 3 plates on the leg press and very low intensity. From my observation not the hardest worker in the gym by far. But heck he must have done something right since he is a pro and i am not LOL
[QUOTE=Calfmaster;13354665]Pretty sure that was false, specially considering it said he had perfect health...[/QUOTE]
Check it out:
[url]http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=10436006&postcount=23[/url]
[QUOTE=The_One77;13357313]Chris Cormier, Victor and Ronnie Coleman at the moment..
Thought Cormier easily beat Jay Cutler at the 2004 AC, hell even Dorian thought so.
Cormier has great size, thickness and the best shape around....Here's Chris Cormier competiting with Flex and Ronnie
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzCENUWMHqg[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pa6n7Fekl_U[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=327B_6y07yk[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rsgH5OLJag[/url][/QUOTE]
did u see ronnies waist!!!!! compare that to now damnn!!!!!!!
Hard to say... but I think depending on what he does... possibly Phil Heath... He is 4-0 in his bodybuilding life... never lost a single round in any contest... ANd he is only 26 or 27... and only been training for something like 5yrs.
[QUOTE=njmuscle66;13357455]Never understood the appeal of Paul Dillet.........Just never cared for his physigue and I can cocnur about his training habits. Quite some time ago I was training at a gym up jersey when Dillet was in town. Ended up doing legs at the same time as him. 3 plates on the leg press and very low intensity. From my observation not the hardest worker in the gym by far. But heck he must have done something right since he is a pro and i am not LOL[/QUOTE]
That's exactly the whole point, he threw a couple weights around time to time and just GREW AND GREW...genetic freak...