Powerlifters and Vertical Jumps

I play football and have been reading a lot about speed and vertical jump. A lot of people say if you can squat a lot (powerlifters) you will usually have a high vertical jump and will be fast.

I was wondering if you guys could tell me your vertical jump, 40 yard dash time, ect. because I want to see if it's true that if you squat a lot you can jump high. If you don't have your vertical jump or whatever, tell me if you think you can jump higher from all of the heavy lifting you are doing.

Thanks for all the help in advance.

sorry, i cant help....way too fat to jump high lol. talk to Kiknskrem

A big squat doesn't mean you will jump high.

Having a high strength to weight ratio is a good correlate to explosive power though.

[QUOTE=mosley1990;259480021]sorry, i cant help....way too fat to jump high lol. talk to Kiknskrem[/QUOTE]

Lol.

LOl, my best squat in training was 705 and my jump? let's just say you can barely slip a piece of bread under my feet while I'm jumping :) IMHO, it depends on how atheletic you are while and/or before traininig

-Relative strength
-Rate of force development

Work on those two things.

there are essentially 2 main ways to increase your vert
vertical programs, like air alert that mainly focus on getting your body used to jumping, and maximising the strength you have
or doing things like squatting to increase strength (preferably increasing strength moreso than you increase your bodyweight)

either working on technique and PRACTICING jumpgin, or getting much stronger could help individually, but, improving both of them, i find to be fail safe... something like a westside method, with a max effort squat, then on DE day doing various jumpoing movements....i'm 6'5... when i weighed 210 lbs i could barely dunk... i now weigh about 265...and some of my weight gain was fat (maybe 20 lbs) and i don't practice jumping much as it hurts my knees...and still jump slightly higher than i did when i was about 210... if i were to really practice JUMPING it'd do wonders for my vertical and i could jump much higher than i did

Thanks everyone.

Power = Work / Time
Power = Force x Velocity

Power being the explosive strength used to jump high, work and force being the strength used to push yourself into the air, time being the rate, and velocity the speed.

If you want to increase your verticle jump, you can increase your strength by squatting, deadlifting, olympic lifts, etc., or you can increase the speed of the rate of force development by plyometric drills and exercises. You can do both but if it's too hard on yourself, work on one aspect at a time.

[QUOTE=PowerTricks;259487421]Power = Work / Time
Power = Force x Velocity

Power being the explosive strength used to jump high, work and force being the strength used to push yourself into the air, time being the rate, and velocity the speed.

If you want to increase your verticle jump, you can increase your strength by squatting, deadlifting, olympic lifts, etc., or you can increase the speed of the rate of force development by plyometric drills and exercises. You can do both but if it's too hard on yourself, work on one aspect at a time.[/QUOTE]

Thanks, I would rep you but I have given too much out today.

[QUOTE=HardHitter22;259489031]Thanks, I would rep you but I have given too much out today.[/QUOTE]


i repp'd him for ya...

i couldnt have said it better myself...

i do plyo's twice a month... and i will dunk a basketball by 10/2009... (i can get rim now and dunk on a 9'6" hoop)

Well when I played football in high school I squatted 405 sophmore year and a pretty good jump (nothing spectacular) but I did have fast feet and great speed for my size. I wouldn't say high squat equals high vertical but in my opinion it does help with explosiveness, legwork, hip drive etc..

on the other hand when just starting out at a 225 squat my speed was average and my vert was just average as well I guess. From my experience it has helped but then again we're all different so don't think it's an absolute truth or something.

One more thing, powercleans helped me A LOT when it came to explosiveness, just be careful since they can really mess you up if done wrong.

[QUOTE=corozco;259512351]Well when I played football in high school I squatted 405 sophmore year and a pretty good jump (nothing spectacular) but I did have fast feet and great speed for my size. I wouldn't say high squat equals high vertical but in my opinion it does help with explosiveness, legwork, hip drive etc..

on the other hand when just starting out at a 225 squat my speed was average and my vert was just average as well I guess. From my experience it has helped but then again we're all different so don't think it's an absolute truth or something.

One more thing, powercleans helped me A LOT when it came to explosiveness, just be careful since they can really mess you up if done wrong.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I have been doing power cleans. My stats are in my sig.

[QUOTE=HardHitter22;259489031]Thanks, I would rep you but I have given too much out today.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=vegasdsm;259504541]i repp'd him for ya...

i couldnt have said it better myself...

i do plyo's twice a month... and i will dunk a basketball by 10/2009... (i can get rim now and dunk on a 9'6" hoop)[/QUOTE]

Nice progress! Also, an excellent book and resource for the vertical jump height and the relationship between strength training and plyometric drilling can be found here: [url]http://www.higher-faster-sports.com/verticaljump.html[/url]. As soon as my back heals I will be ordering a second copy so I can get back to working on my vertical jump.

I think you had powerlifters confused with Olympic Lifters. They have the highest vert and are very fast over a short distance. [url]http://www.menshealth.com/cda/article.do?site=MensHealth&channel=fitness&category=workout.plans&conitem=d2b3a9f3340dc010VgnVCM10000013281eac____&page=1[/url]

I think if some powerlifters with good squats dropped down to say 10% bodyfat they would have good verts. Yet a strong squat does not = a high vert. You can get a high vert faster just doing a jumping program with boxes and other ploymetric exercises ext. Squat will help you get good vert though.

i've made it up to a 51" box jump but I'm slow as ****

OP, as a college athlete and a former D-1 prospect for football the best thing you can do for your vert is....jump. Do plyo's/play basketball, even on your jump shots just try to explode and jump as high as possible (unless you're a set shooter). When I was serious about basketball (basketball was not my best sport) I would play for around 4-5 hours today just practicing my jump shot/lay-ups/rebounds. Usually my vert would go up a huge amount in that time. Dr. J and many other basketball players attribute their verticals to playing basketball and jumping from a young age. Squats will help quite a bit but they're not the main factor imo.

[QUOTE=Diana Meeque;259618321]i've made it up to a 51" box jump but I'm slow as ****[/QUOTE]

it's fun walkin outta the lockerroom with a tape measure....right? (lulz)

[QUOTE=vegasdsm;259626921]it's fun walkin outta the lockerroom with a tape measure....right? (lulz)[/QUOTE]

huh? i didn't do it at 24 hour fitness lol

[QUOTE=Diana Meeque;259630191]huh? i didn't do it at 24 hour fitness lol[/QUOTE]
id lol if you could dunk

[QUOTE=sickonstorm;259631421]id lol if you could dunk[/QUOTE]

i cant, my hands are too small and i can't get that high. i might be able to touch rim though

if i had your hops and some game id be UNSTOPPABLE. i could grab rim with my 185 squat, and i dont think i could dunk naao with my 260 squat any ideas why?