anyone tried tis product?
i was looking for a cheap form of no2
[url]http://www.********/productDetails.asp?id=760611[/url]
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anyone tried tis product?
i was looking for a cheap form of no2
[url]http://www.********/productDetails.asp?id=760611[/url]
its not really the same thing as NO2, but NO2 dont work anyways. dont waste ur money.
wally world carries l-arginine but a good protein has this in it.
GNC costs way too much. I got it at Beyond a Century online. It's much cheaper.
I think it helps me with workouts, to really really get pumped up. Start low on the dosage (and maybe just stay low).
Fair warning, though, the powder smells and tastes bad.
I recommend ALA and l-carnitine with the arganine. take these two after your workout. I take arganine before my workout, with my shake.
L-arganine actually enhanced ur pump? You sure?
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by cubical [/i]
[B]L-arganine actually enhanced ur pump? You sure? [/B][/QUOTE]
its the main ingredient in no2,
3g of it in 1 tab
i know but its enhanced somehow, but still even with the pumps it wont give you much if any strength gains
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by battousai [/i]
[B]anyone tried tis product?
i was looking for a cheap form of no2
[/B][/QUOTE]
Dear Battousai: I'm no expert, so take this for what it's worth. I'm not trying to 'scare you away' from arginine. There is nothing wrong with experimenting with it, after all.
Arginine is exceptionally weak (impotent) as a vasodilator despite the frequent claims to the contrary (advertisements, for instance). This is true even when you INFUSE IT DIRECTLY INTO ONE OF YOUR ARTERIES (please don't). Even when it does manage to open up your blood vessels, it does so only modestly and transiently.
In large quantities, arginine may actually suppress oxygen consumption by your muscles, thereby impairing performance. This is speculative, but certainly no more so than the claims being made for arginine-based 'NO enhancing' dietary supplements.
Now, I'm not saying that just because a supplement doesn't have 'science to back it up' it cannot possibly have merit. Not at all. What I am saying is that when a product is marketed, it the presence or absence of scientific 'support' should be clearly indicated, rather than hidden in exaggerated and/or patently false claims.
Again, if you want to experiment with arginine, then go ahead. Please share your results here. They will be helpful to many, I am sure.
Respectfully,
Rob
yes, my increase in pump is directly related to l-arganine, and it varies depending on how much i take. i don't get NO2 or nox, just L-arganine.
I trust the research, but i have singled out arganine as helpful to getting pumped up in the gym. Surely it has other properties other than acting as a vasodilator?
I also understand that it doesn't "work" for most people, but it is difficult to say why.
It is a nice supplement, but it isn't necessary. I find it useful to a good workout. It will be interesting to see more research in the future.
stephen
I was considering this brand:
[url]http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/now/larg.html[/url]
But was wondering which one you used?
I'm trying cheaper alternatives to No2
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by nobody0 [/i]
[B]yes, my increase in pump is directly related to l-arganine, and it varies depending on how much i take. i don't get NO2 or nox, just L-arganine.
I trust the research, but i have singled out arganine as helpful to getting pumped up in the gym. Surely it has other properties other than acting as a vasodilator?
I also understand that it doesn't "work" for most people, but it is difficult to say why.
It is a nice supplement, but it isn't necessary. I find it useful to a good workout. It will be interesting to see more research in the future.
stephen [/B][/QUOTE]
woohoo
i like a user review like tis: from someone hu has tried
to robert: hav u tried these products? if not, dun comment.
i tried it from beyondacentury.com - it was cheap. you may want to get some Yuck Away - arganine tastes bad and smells terrible.
Some people drink a shot of OJ afterwards to chase away the taste.
Good luck. Don't get too much if it just in case you aren't pleased with the results. Who knows - you may not notice any results.
Arganine inhibits the absorption of Lysine, so what I do is supplement with a small amount of lysine later in the evening. Don't take the two together, of course, because they compete for absorption.
At any rate, don't spend too much money, and tell us what the results are.
Has anyone ever orderd from here?
I was considering buying 150 grams or l-arginine pyroglutimate
[url]http://www.jomarlabs.com/main/catalog.asp?featureid=1006[/url]
man i found that now is the cheapest , 1 lbs for 24 bucks .
but if you want a good stack for cheap price try animal gh :
[url]http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/univ/ghmax.html[/url]
Amount Per Serving
L-Arginine Pyroglutamate 5000 mg
L-Ornithine alpha-Ketoglutarate 2500 mg
Beta-Sitosterol 100mg
L-Carnitine Complex 100 mg
Gamma Oryzanol ( Natuurlijk Sterol) 50 mg
Boron 4 mg
Viatmin C ( Ascorbinsure ) 100 mg
Vitamin B 6 20 mg
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by sicosico [/i]
[B]L-Arginine Pyroglutamate 5000 mg
L-Ornithine alpha-Ketoglutarate 2500 mg
[/B][/QUOTE]
not bad.....
ya ,i'll just to add glutamine , creatine and protein ( i have them from along time) , and here you go with huge gains !
Do you plan on taking it pre-workout also? I would reccomend that.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by highpower1111 [/i]
[B]I was considering this brand:
[url]http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/now/larg.html[/url]
But was wondering which one you used?
I'm trying cheaper alternatives to No2 [/B][/QUOTE]
i tink NOW is the best ard here
see the thread NO2 Exposed
the author reccommended tt brand
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by highpower1111 [/i]
[B]Do you plan on taking it pre-workout also? I would reccomend that. [/B][/QUOTE]
ya universal gh max has 6 caps for one serving so 3 before workout and 3 after !
If you haven't already, take a look at the "NO2 Eposed" thread by iceman.
What I got out of this thread was to drink soda with your arginine pills to lower th ph level in your stomach, allowing the maximum absorbtion of the arginine. I like the pump I got from the actual NO2, and I can feel results from just arginine, but in my opinion, its a lil too difficult to always be drinking a soda just to take 3 pills. On top of NO2 I have tried NOX2 and I had the same results. Therefore I would recomend NOX2, you can buy them online for about $70 for 2, which comes out to $35 a piecefor a 30 supply. The arginine I bought contained 100, 100 mg tablets for about $12, so I would need 2 of these arginine bottles for 30 days $24. You'll save around 11 bucks, but in my opinion it's really not worth the hastle. So once I'm done with this bottle I'm gonna order the NOX2. Find what works best for u and your budget. Good luck bro!
ive tried nano x9 which is just a bunch of diffrent types of l-arginine an it did give a nice pump an swell the muscles you look huge an veiny after a workout but its around 3375mg or so. im currently using a 500mg l-arginine which does give a decent pump an swell but nothin compared to the nano x9 as to weather or not it helps increase the absorbtion of the nutrients an oxygen im no doctor or scientist so i couldnt be sure thats just my expierance sorry i couldnt be much help.