Both states that we need 1g of protein per lean mass, and also be in a deficit.
Assuming that my workout stayed the same, calorie deficit stayed the same.
Which is better OVERALL in terms of fat-loss, fat-loss speed, muscle retention?
Cheers
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Both states that we need 1g of protein per lean mass, and also be in a deficit.
Assuming that my workout stayed the same, calorie deficit stayed the same.
Which is better OVERALL in terms of fat-loss, fat-loss speed, muscle retention?
Cheers
neither...in the long run, it's all about that deficit
do yourself a favour: on a cut, make fruit your b[i]i[/i]tch.
Do you wanna eat normal or eat fat and protien?
The best choice is once you can decide that.
I think the best choice is the one you can stick to the longest and be most consistent on. In the last month, I've tried a 40/40/20 diet and I'm currently on Keto. Even though my cals were exactly the same on each diet, I'm finding Keto much easier to stick to. I feel satisfied all day long and I'm not having any cravings. When I was eating low fat I felt like I was always hungry and I actually had some un-planned cheats while I was doing that.
One easy thing is to try them both for a few weeks and see which one works best. Remember, this is a lifestyle change, not a temporary diet. Marathon, not a sprint. Etc.
Agreed, the best is what you can stick to.
I like carbz, I'm having/had success eating this way, therefore if it's not broken - why change it.
[QUOTE=SoSadBtTrue;406351251]I think the best choice is the one you can stick to the longest and be most consistent on. In the last month, I've tried a 40/40/20 diet and I'm currently on Keto. Even though my cals were exactly the same on each diet, I'm finding Keto much easier to stick to. I feel satisfied all day long and I'm not having any cravings. When I was eating low fat I felt like I was always hungry and I actually had some un-planned cheats while I was doing that.
One easy thing is to try them both for a few weeks and see which one works best. Remember, this is a lifestyle change, not a temporary diet. Marathon, not a sprint. Etc.[/QUOTE]
this
keto is great but not a life choice for me ,very easy to stick to and never hungry
like wavelength said in his sticky, a keto diet on a deficit follows the principles of his losing fat for noobs points.
First off, the only thing i'd change on the "fat loss for noobs" thread is the 1g per lbm. It is highly recommended by several PHD bbers (i.e. read layne nortons faq) to eat at least 1.2g per lbm or even more because it becomes that much more important on a cut.
Also, to answer the OP's question, the main goal should never be fat loss speed. Its definitely muscle retention. Lack of patience can only increase the possibilty for unecessary muscle loss.
Finally, as a guy who did keto last year towards the end of my first real cut, I can verify that it's great for [U]weight loss[/U]. Unfortunately, I lost more muscle than I had to as well so I am much happier with my current carb-cycle diet.
Deficit is a deficit for weight loss. However, be careful with keto and muscle retention. Carbs are protein/muscle sparing so you can't avoid them all together and expect to keep the same amount of muscle.
[url]http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/nutrition/how-many-carbohydrates-do-you-need.html[/url]
I've tried a keto diet while cutting and I think it's a great way to change things up. I was tired of brown rice and all of the other "clean" foods so I absolutely loved bacon and eggs for breakfast every day. Of course both times I was still in a caloric deficit.
I had success with both ways.
[QUOTE=frank112;675043351]First off, the only thing i'd change on the "fat loss for noobs" thread is the 1g per lbm. It is highly recommended by several PHD bbers (i.e. read layne nortons faq) to eat at least 1.2g per lbm or even more because it becomes that much more important on a cut.
Also, to answer the OP's question, the main goal should never be fat loss speed. Its definitely muscle retention. Lack of patience can only increase the possibilty for unecessary muscle loss.
Finally, as a guy who did keto last year towards the end of my first real cut, I can verify that it's great for [U]weight loss[/U]. Unfortunately, I lost more muscle than I had to as well so I am much happier with my current carb-cycle diet.[/QUOTE]
I do realize this is an old post but you're stats are similar to mine (on the high end).
What did you do that first year, in 2009, to consistently drop weight?
Make a choice by eating healthy
[QUOTE=obesebeast;406275351]neither...in the long run, it's all about that deficit[/QUOTE]
Do hardcore fit models go down to like 800 cals a day when contest is near?