is the protein that you get from eggs, the same as what you would get from beef/ chicken....which is better for a person who is bulking?
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is the protein that you get from eggs, the same as what you would get from beef/ chicken....which is better for a person who is bulking?
I would like to know as well.
Nothing beats beef when it comes to protein.
[QUOTE=Demonsbane;201820271]Nothing beats beef when it comes to protein.[/QUOTE]
Not even chicken? Its about the same right?
In terms of BV, Eggs > meat. The BV difference between fish, meat, and chicken is not significant. I'm not sure which is the highest in particular amino acids (e.g., BCAA's)
In terms of nutrition, well that is more complicated.
It will in part depends on what the animals are fed. E.g., in AUS, omega 3 eggs fed flax and other things have 100% RDI of Zinc, Folate, E, Seleinium, A per 2 eggs which is quite impressive.
Some bodybuilders say that Beef is the most anabolic of meats (zinc, iron).
See say nutritiondata.com to compare the meats.
Chicken, turkey tends to be the leanest but you can by lean cuts of most meats. Fatty fish is perhaps the healthiest (omega 3), providing low in mercury.
I found this with a direct comparison of different types of protein available.
[url]http://www.hammernutrition.com/za/HNT?PAGE=ARTICLE&ARTICLE.ID=2897[/url]
[QUOTE=raffytaffy;201822721]I found this with a direct comparison of different types of protein available.
[url]http://www.hammernutrition.com/za/HNT?PAGE=ARTICLE&ARTICLE.ID=2897[/url][/QUOTE]
Good find - so Milk > Whey in terms of leucine, the most anabolic amino?
This suprised me - didn't realised that casein is the king of leucine which that infers
i'm not SURE about beef, but for some reason i want to say that it is an incomplete protein. very well could be wrong; but i KNOW eggs are complete protein. that being said, eggs > beef
[QUOTE=GeneralLee_1;201846051]i'm not SURE about beef, but for some reason i want to say that it is an incomplete protein. very well could be wrong; but i KNOW eggs are complete protein. that being said, eggs > beef[/QUOTE]
You're wrong. All animal sources of protein are complete.
thanks guys, im gonna continue with the beef and see how that goes
Red Meat > Fish > Shellfish > Eggs > Chicken
[QUOTE=brandon2000;202090731]thanks guys, im gonna continue with the beef and see how that goes[/QUOTE]
you're better off getting protein from various sources.
[QUOTE=rainieravesouth;202109361]you're better off getting protein from various sources.[/QUOTE]
x2.
I love people asking this sort of thing. Just eat them both and enjoy yourself. Don't be another one of these drones who eat oats, egg whites, PB and CC every single day without ever considering anything else because it'll instantly turn them into giant fat blobs.
My understanding is the ratio of amino acids in eggs are among, if not the best for "protein quality".
[QUOTE=RU4A69;202092101]Red Meat > Fish > Shellfish > Eggs > Chicken[/QUOTE]
Nope.
Eggs and WPI > meat > soy > other vegan proteins
[QUOTE=Spottydog;202128891]Nope.
Eggs and WPI > meat > soy > other vegan proteins[/QUOTE]
You are correct in terms of BV.
The only argument that say beef is best is if iron and zinc are considered anabolic nutrients.
Having said that, I'm sure most guys here get too much iron if anything - according to WHO excessive iron is carcinogenic (i'm not saying it is, but that's their finding). I'm not sure everyone though would meet their zinc RDI - with Vit E, it's probably one I struggle with most.
[QUOTE=Spottydog;202128891]Nope.
Eggs and WPI > meat > soy > other vegan proteins[/QUOTE]
I was going by vitamin/mineral/ and creatine density per weight.
"wpi" has none of those. It is processed powder.
[QUOTE=RU4A69;202135361]I was going by vitamin/mineral/ and creatine density per weight.
"wpi" has none of those. It is processed powder.[/QUOTE]
The discussion is about quality of protein, not vitamin/mineral/creatine density.
[i]Nothing beats beef when it comes to protein.[/i]
[i]You're wrong. All animal sources of protein are complete.[/i]
[i]Red Meat > Fish > Shellfish > Eggs > Chicken[/i]
Absolutely wrong!
PDCAAS value of protein
A PDCAAS value of 1 is the highest, and 0 the lowest as the table demonstrates the ratings of commons foods below.
whey (1.0) (complete protein)
egg white (1.0) (complete protein)
casein (1.0) (complete protein)
milk (1.0) (complete protein)
soy protein isolate (1.00) (complete protein)
beef (0.92) = incomplete protein
poultry (0.88) = incomplete protein
pork (0.86) = incomplete protein
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein_Digestibility_Corrected_Amino_Acid_Score[/url]
It's all good. I eat eggs, beef, chicken and fish everyday. Can't go wrong with that can you;)
[QUOTE=brandon2000;201776911]is the protein that you get from eggs, the same as what you would get from beef/ chicken....which is better for a person who is bulking?[/QUOTE]
I read a few of the other responses and YES, beef IS a complete protein despite what others have said. Eggs are a complete protein as well. The benefit to eating eggs rather than beef is less saturated fatty acids. They both contain high amounts of cholesterol, but as long as your diet includes a healthy eating pattern, that shouldn't be a problem. Again, chicken and fish have less saturated fat. Fish also has those omega-3s that everyone already knows about. As a dietetics student, I would recommend variety!! Eating only one of anything all the time can minimize the nutrients your body receives. Different nutrients come from different sources! But since you are mainly concerned with protein... any of them will work! As a little science info that you may or may not want: A complete protein consists of 9 essential amino acids, 11 nonessential. In order for any of those amino acids to be utilized in the body, you must obtain all 20 within a 24-hour period. So complementing proteins such as beans, legumes, etc (w/in 24 hrs) can create a complete protein like that that is in animal products. Sorry for the book on this topic, but hopefully I've helped at least a little bit!
[QUOTE=ugadawg12;613654003]I read a few of the other responses and YES, beef IS a complete protein despite what others have said. Eggs are a complete protein as well. The benefit to eating eggs rather than beef is less saturated fatty acids. They both contain high amounts of cholesterol, but as long as your diet includes a healthy eating pattern, that shouldn't be a problem. Again, chicken and fish have less saturated fat. Fish also has those omega-3s that everyone already knows about. As a dietetics student, I would recommend variety!! Eating only one of anything all the time can minimize the nutrients your body receives. Different nutrients come from different sources! But since you are mainly concerned with protein... any of them will work! As a little science info that you may or may not want: A complete protein consists of 19 essential amino acids. In order for any of those amino acids to be utilized in the body, you must obtain all 19 within a 24-hour period. So complementing proteins such as beans, legumes, etc (w/in 24 hrs) can create a complete protein like that that is in animal products. Sorry for the book on this topic, but hopefully I've helped at least a little bit![/QUOTE]
I'm sure the OP appreciates your response! (provided he comes back after 2.5 years to check for responses)
[QUOTE=ugadawg12;613654003]I read a few of the other responses and YES, beef IS a complete protein despite what others have said. Eggs are a complete protein as well. The benefit to eating eggs rather than beef is less saturated fatty acids. They both contain high amounts of cholesterol, but as long as your diet includes a healthy eating pattern, that shouldn't be a problem. Again, chicken and fish have less saturated fat. Fish also has those omega-3s that everyone already knows about. As a dietetics student, I would recommend variety!! Eating only one of anything all the time can minimize the nutrients your body receives. Different nutrients come from different sources! But since you are mainly concerned with protein... any of them will work! As a little science info that you may or may not want: A complete protein consists of 19 essential amino acids. In order for any of those amino acids to be utilized in the body, you must obtain all 19 within a 24-hour period. So complementing proteins such as beans, legumes, etc (w/in 24 hrs) can create a complete protein like that that is in animal products. Sorry for the book on this topic, but hopefully I've helped at least a little bit![/QUOTE]
as soon as i read "They both contain high amounts of cholesterol," i knew to stop...
[QUOTE=iLovemyLuxe;613658043]as soon as i read "They both contain high amounts of cholesterol," i knew to stop...[/QUOTE]
Not at "The benefit to eating eggs rather than beef is less saturated fatty acids."?
i skim
I edited the amino acids thing! Sorry, typo with essential amino acids and wrong count on total.
[QUOTE=nathan183;613657243]I'm sure the OP appreciates your response! (provided he comes back after 2.5 years to check for responses)[/QUOTE]
Haha, I didn't even look at the date. My bad.
[QUOTE=veganmuscle_;207337041]
whey (1.0) (complete protein)
egg white (1.0) (complete protein)
casein (1.0) (complete protein)
milk (1.0) (complete protein)
soy protein isolate (1.00) (complete protein)
beef (0.92) = incomplete protein
poultry (0.88) = incomplete protein
pork (0.86) = incomplete protein[/QUOTE]
[b]You're wrong.[/b]
I think the problem is that you don't know the definition of a complete protein.
There are nine essential amino acids (EAA's)* include, which the body can't produce, including: histidine, isoleucine, leucine, lysine, methionine, phenylalanine, threonine, tryptophan and valine.*
If a protein source has all nine EAA's, then it is a complete protein.
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* For adults.
Your all wrong.
Fish+Rice cakes>everything else.
Fixed! :)
[QUOTE=Joseph1990;613725873]Your all wrong.
Fish>Rice cakes>everything else.[/QUOTE]
No, you're wrong.
Fish + rice cakes > everything else ;)
What about fish cakes with rice?
[url]http://www.taste.com.au/recipes/15603/spicy+fish+cakes+with+yellow+rice[/url]