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I just started a 6 week cycle. I was wondering if any one else here has tried it? I am logging it and will have picutes on supp log IFELLIN007 log if any one is interested.
Any one that has used this info of results to expect would be appreciated,
NEGS and POS?
I've heard that the original Methyl 1-D isn't that good so let us know how your cycle turns out
Will do, I am taking VPX meltdown, cretck, luteck, looking to keep mass and strenth while cutting. So we will see?
Some support would be nice as its my first log.
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Any one tried this ???????
I tried it and after 4 weeks I didnt see any substantially large gains. Everywhere I read has said that Methyl 1 d are just sugar pills and are horrible for your liver.
[QUOTE=feath1ds;138458111]Everywhere I read has said that Methyl 1 d are just sugar pills and are horrible for your liver.[/QUOTE]
Nah, not sugar... Methylated Dhea + small amounts of ATD. So, anyone who has messed around with harsher hormonal stuff probably wouldn't get a whole lot out of it.
Is this Methyl 1D XL a newer version that has been changed? I haven't checked it out yet.
Yea I am logging it and will have pictures as well, I am not drinking on it so I dont expext liver problems. I also have the PCT that they recommend. How bad could one 6 week cycle be???
isn't methyl 1-d XL the really ****ty version ONLY avail at GNC?
to correct our friend black_spit, it's not methylated dhea (not the XL version at GNC tho, which is missing the key 'anabolic' ingredient from what i have seen), nice try tho. it's dhea ethanoate ester with some supporting stuff in it, i'm glad you noticed the ATD (bloody small amounts indeed), and a 5aR inhibitor that prob doesn't do much inhibiting at all. but, it's a decent product i guess. worth the cost? absolutely not. if you get a sick deal on it like i did (buy 1 bottle, get 2 free), then go for it.
now what can you expect? not a hell of alot, your diet must be totally in check and your training must be hard as fuk. methyl 1-d "stength and mass" or if you're lucky enough to find the "hormonal optimizer" version... they may increase your poundage on many lifts and potentially lose some % of your BF. to my delight it did just this - albeit very small increases. like 5-15 lbs on most lifts. 25lbs on bench. lost about 2% BF. nothing to really praise the product over.
where am i in the cycle you may think? i'm in week 5, almost week 6. would i use again? only if i got a sick deal on it like i just did. what would it be ideal for? to stack with another PH, preferrably something with more "zing" or "zazz"...
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to correct our friend black_spit, it's not methylated dhea (not the XL version at GNC tho, which is missing the key 'anabolic' ingredient from what i have seen), nice try tho.[/QUOTE]
As far as that part goes, the owner of Legal Gear said that is what it was... unless you have some proof otherwise, I'll stand by it.
[QUOTE=Black_Spit;138479171]As far as that part goes, the owner of Legal Gear said that is what it was... unless you have some proof otherwise, I'll stand by it.[/QUOTE]
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i hope this helps ;)