Overeem got licensed to fight today, good news big foot fight is on. Maybe it just wasn't mentioned, but im suprised theres no conditions to his license
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Overeem got licensed to fight today, good news big foot fight is on. Maybe it just wasn't mentioned, but im suprised theres no conditions to his license
I'm surprised that there are not multiple post on this with pictures of him supposedly looking like a LHW again.
No conditions? I am a bit shocked by that one...the only thing is it would make the NSAC look like they're on a witch hunt.
He said he's packed on more muscle since the Brock fight.
[QUOTE=cgc;1006607223]I'm surprised that there are not multiple post on this with pictures of him supposedly looking like a LHW again.
No conditions? I am a bit shocked by that one...the only thing is it would make the NSAC look like they're on a witch hunt.[/QUOTE]
think he has enough gas to take on cain?
verdum said it felt like walking into a brick wall when he tried to take down Overeem
cant wait for this fight
[QUOTE=legbrah;1006618793]think he has enough gas to take on cain?
verdum said it felt like walking into a brick wall when he tried to take down Overeem
cant wait for this fight[/QUOTE]
That's not saying too much though, who has Werdum taken down? JDS had only been on his back less than 20 seconds before their fight. According to FightMetric Cain took him down 11 times, yet he still has 74% TD defense. I'm pulling for Cain, and I think it'll be easier than everyone thinks it's going to be.
[QUOTE=cgc;1006607223]I'm surprised that there are not multiple post on this with pictures of him supposedly looking like a LHW again.[/QUOTE][url]http://middleeasy.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8331:is-it-just-us-or-does-alistair-overeem-look-thinner-in-this-photo&catid=34:organizations[/url]
[QUOTE=legbrah;1006618793]
verdum said it felt like walking into a brick wall when he tried to take down Overeem
[/QUOTE]But he's not roided up anymore so we'll see
[QUOTE=cgc;1006607223]I'm surprised that there are not multiple post on this with pictures of him supposedly looking like a LHW again.
No conditions? I am a bit shocked by that one...the only thing is it would make the NSAC look like they're on a witch hunt.[/QUOTE]
has anyone else been hit with conditions after essentially serving a suspension for anabolics?
[QUOTE=cgc;1006607223]I'm surprised that there are not multiple post on this with pictures of him supposedly looking like a LHW again.
No conditions? I am a bit shocked by that one...the only thing is it would make the NSAC look like they're on a witch hunt.[/QUOTE]
once you're a known cheater it's a witch hunt to pay extra attention to you? i think not..
[QUOTE=tudge;1006620763]That's not saying too much though, who has Werdum taken down? JDS had only been on his back less than 20 seconds before their fight. According to FightMetric Cain took him down 11 times, yet he still has 74% TD defense. I'm pulling for Cain, and I think it'll be easier than everyone thinks it's going to be.[/QUOTE]
interdasting
always re-guarded cain as no. 1
cant wait for this fight
will he be able to get the take down?
[QUOTE=xbuttheaddx;1006628023]But he's not roided up anymore so we'll see[/QUOTE]
no human can maintain that sort of mass after gaining it un-naturally
hes on for life...
[QUOTE=legbrah;1006642433]no human can maintain that sort of mass after gaining it un-naturally
hes on for life...[/QUOTE]Apparently he's not that big anymore. [url]http://middleeasy.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8331:is-it-just-us-or-does-alistair-overeem-look-thinner-in-this-photo&catid=34:organizations[/url]
It'll be interesting to see him fight how he is now.
[QUOTE=cgc;1006607223]I'm surprised that there are not multiple post on this with pictures of him supposedly looking like a LHW again.
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[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/yYCN9.jpg[/IMG]
vs his k1 championship win
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/ngf9M.jpg[/IMG]
No testing in k1 vs after he got busted
That said he will still be the most jacked hw in the UFC and will destroy bigfoot.
[QUOTE=xbuttheaddx;1006645853]Apparently he's not that big anymore. [url]http://middleeasy.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8331:is-it-just-us-or-does-alistair-overeem-look-thinner-in-this-photo&catid=34:organizations[/url]
It'll be interesting to see him fight how he is now.[/QUOTE]
have to see come weighin
if hes still over 240+ and lean
hes on
Big Foot can't take a hard shot. This will be a showcase fight for Reem but hopefully get us excited for the Valesquez fight or Silva will win and it will prove FEDOR ONLY LOST TO TOP 5 HW. (LULZ).
[QUOTE=tudge;1006614143]He said he's packed on more muscle since the Brock fight.[/QUOTE]
This
At least that's what I read earlier also
Reem's just gotta get on that horse meat bulk again.
[QUOTE=RoccoTanno123;1006628983]has anyone else been hit with conditions after essentially serving a suspension for anabolics?[/QUOTE]
Thats the thing, Overeem was never suspended. After the Overeem vs Lesnar testing debacle Alistair was required to submit to 2 random drug tests before getting his next license. As we know he failed his first random test, so he wasn't allowed to apply for his license. So to sum up, the last time Alistair applied for his license he was hit with conditions and he failed those conditions. For some reason this time he has escaped any more conditions to getting his license.
So to answer your question, i don't believe any fighter has ever been in the situation that the Reem is in. Hes really on his own with this one.
[QUOTE=yummy22;1006661933][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/yYCN9.jpg[IMG]
vs his k1 championship win
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/ngf9M.jpg[IMG]
No testing in k1 vs after he got busted
That said he will still be the most jacked hw in the UFC and will destroy bigfoot.[/QUOTE]
Oh, for f*ck's sake. HG, CGC, and I all debunked this non-sense months ago. There's video from the same event where he's clearly not hurting in the mass department. [B]And it's a moot point, regardless. That first picture was taken BEFORE he got popped for [color=red]high test ratios; IE-not roids[/color][/B].
But for argument's sake, let's say that first picture was taken today. Have you not factored in that he's pumped and probably fully carbed doing a f*cking workout, versus standing outside on a non-training day completely cold.
You're an idiot. End of discussion.
[QUOTE=je1ani;1006674523]FEDOR ONLY LOST TO TOP 5 HW. (LULZ).[/QUOTE]
Top 5 HWs...like Dan Henderson.
[img]http://gifninja.com/animatedgifs/259522/ba-dum-tss.gif[/img]
[QUOTE=LAWLER89;1006733673]Oh, for f*ck's sake. HG, CGC, and I all debunked this non-sense months ago. There's video from the same event where he's clearly not hurting in the mass department. [B]And it's a moot point, regardless. That first picture was taken BEFORE he got popped for [color=red]high test ratios; IE-not roids[/color][/B].
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Wait, do you believe Reem did not use roids?
[QUOTE=LAWLER89;1006733673][/color][/B]Have you not factored in that he's pumped and probably fully carbed doing a f*cking workout, versus standing outside on a non-training day completely cold.[/QUOTE]
Being carbed up doesn't add 20-40 lbs of bodyweight. How pumped up do you think a workout makes you?
[QUOTE=xbuttheaddx;1006627513][url]http://middleeasy.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8331:is-it-just-us-or-does-alistair-overeem-look-thinner-in-this-photo&catid=34:organizations[/url][/QUOTE]
Huh, I think I've seen that photo before and didn't remember him looking thin. Anyway he did that arm wresrling new years and was huge
[QUOTE=Casshern;1006766913]Wait, do you believe Reem did not use roids?[/QUOTE]
I don't like to presume on things of that nature without empirical evidence.
[QUOTE=xbuttheaddx;1006769413]Being carbed up doesn't add 20-40 lbs of bodyweight. How pumped up do you think a workout makes you?[/QUOTE]
Oh, so you weighed him, did you? Surely you understand how being pumped makes you look significantly larger. Your BW claim is based on no factual basis.
[B]AND AGAIN, the first picture was taken BEFORE the Lesnar fight.[/B]
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[QUOTE=superfunk;1006707913]Thats the thing, Overeem was never suspended. After the Overeem vs Lesnar testing debacle Alistair was required to submit to 2 random drug tests before getting his next license. As we know he failed his first random test, so he wasn't allowed to apply for his license. So to sum up, the last time Alistair applied for his license he was hit with conditions and he failed those conditions. For some reason this time he has escaped any more conditions to getting his license.
So to answer your question, i don't believe any fighter has ever been in the situation that the Reem is in. Hes really on his own with this one.[/QUOTE]
Yes, technically that's true. I said "essentially" because he was denied applying for his license vs. JDS because of his elevated T/E ratio. To my knowledge, this was pretty unprecedented, but the commission appeared to treat it basically the same as a suspension for a guy with a license getting popped for steroids (i.e. 9-12 month suspension.)
I've become a big Reem supported in the last few years (mostly due to those "the reem" videos where you really get to know him)
BUT why is no one discussing his fight with bigfoot and jumping right to cain?
bigfoot is a game opponent for anyone and anything could happen in the next year to where cain vs reem isnt even their next fight
That being said WAR REEM!
this thread would not be complete without people thinking overeem is only good because of his weight. im sure he will look the same come fight day
[QUOTE=xbuttheaddx;1006645853]Apparently he's not that big anymore. [url]http://middleeasy.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8331:is-it-just-us-or-does-alistair-overeem-look-thinner-in-this-photo&catid=34:organizations[/url]
It'll be interesting to see him fight how he is now.[/QUOTE]
did u read the article lol , update on it
[QUOTE=Coach McGuirk;1006823293]I've become a big Reem supported in the last few years (mostly due to those "the reem" videos where you really get to know him)
BUT why is no one discussing his fight with bigfoot and jumping right to cain?
bigfoot is a game opponent for anyone and anything could happen in the next year to where cain vs reem isnt even their next fight
That being said WAR REEM![/QUOTE]
Agreed, shouldn't be looking past bigface. I hope reem pulls it off though, I think hes a clear favorite
[QUOTE=legbrah;1006618793]think he has enough gas to take on cain?[/QUOTE]
The longer the fight goes, I think the better the odds are of Cain winning. I could be proven wrong, but I don't think Overeem has the stamina to match Cain.
[QUOTE=RoccoTanno123;1006628983]has anyone else been hit with conditions after essentially serving a suspension for anabolics?[/QUOTE]
I don't think so...but when have they tested someone repeatedly like they have Overeem?
[QUOTE=jamez123;1006630753]once you're a known cheater it's a witch hunt to pay extra attention to you? i think not..[/QUOTE]
I think so. You have the right to your opinion though.
[QUOTE=LAWLER89;1006733673]Oh, for f*ck's sake. HG, CGC, and I all debunked this non-sense months ago. There's video from the same event where he's clearly not hurting in the mass department. [B]And it's a moot point, regardless. That first picture was taken BEFORE he got popped for [color=red]high test ratios; IE-not roids[/color][/B].[/QUOTE]
This...that picture is pretty much crap. On top of that, Overeem has always had a pretty narrow profile anyways, so that's not a very good example.
I think the Reem beats Bigfoot pretty easily, then unfortunately, Cain smashes him.
I hate Cain, but I really do not think the Reem can avoid getting taken down.
I'm hoping they give Junior an instant rematch, he wins, then the Reem fights Junior for the belt.
Not gonna happen, but I really wanted that fight to happen...
[QUOTE=tudge;1006614143]He said he's packed on more muscle since the Brock fight.[/QUOTE] Not unless he "packed on more muscle mass" since the end of October. I met him out in Vegas and he looked nowhere near Lesnar-fight size. If so, then that'd be a VERY impressive muscle gain in a little over 2 months.......