Fenugreek = Growth hormone

This is my first post, but been bodybuilding for years. I am interested in the supplement side like most folks but have yet to find anything really hot.

I have found this article on fenugreek in an experiment with rats that states that fenugreek releases lots of growth hormone.

What do you think?


Rat growth-hormone release stimulators from fenugreek seeds.
Shim SH, Lee EJ, Kim JS, Kang SS, Ha H, Lee HY, Kim C, Lee JH, Son KH.
Source

School of Biotechnology, Yeungnam University, Gyeongsan 712-749, Korea.
Abstract

Bioassay-guided fractionation of MeOH extract from fenugreek (Trigonella foenum-graecum L.) seeds resulted in the isolation of two rat growth-hormone release stimulators in vitro, fenugreek saponin I (1) and dioscin (9), along with two new, i.e., 2 and 3, and five known analogues, i.e., 4-8. The structures of the new steroidal saponins, fenugreek saponins I, II, and III (1-3, resp.), were determined as gitogenin 3-O-beta-D-xylopyranosyl-(1-->6)-beta-D-glucopyranoside, sarsasapogenin 3-O-beta-D-xylopyranosyl-(1-->6)-beta-D-glucopyranoside, and gitogenin 3-O-alpha-L-rhamnopyranosyl-(1-->2)-beta-D-glucopyranoside, respectively. Fenugreek saponin I (1) and dioscin (9) caused ca. 12.5- and 17.7-fold stimulation of release, respectively, of rat growth hormone from rat pituitary cells, whereas gitogenin (5) showed moderate activity. To our knowledge, this is the first study to demonstrate that steroidal saponins stimulate rat growth-hormone release in rat pituitary cells.

PMID:
18816528
[PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

I am thinking about using an extract for a while to see what happens, I've tried the powder before and it does make you quite smelly.

I would like to know dosages and standardised values.

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I wish people would just stop believing in fenugreek. Its for healthy lactation. So go ahead and roll some out if you plan on breast feeding in the next 9 months. Actually you might be better off giving fenugreek to a chic then breast feeding off her

[QUOTE=Hansolo261;721299761]I wish people would just stop believing in fenugreek. Its for healthy lactation. So go ahead and roll some out if you plan on breast feeding in the next 9 months. Actually you might be better off giving fenugreek to a chic then breast feeding off her[/QUOTE]

So that scientific study was junk then?

Also, have you seen the results of someone taking fenugreek? Did they develop breasts if they were male?

[QUOTE=mark10000;721289021]
I have found this article on fenugreek in an experiment with rats that states that fenugreek releases lots of growth hormone.

[b]What do you think?[/b]


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welcome to 2005??

[QUOTE]This is my first post, but been bodybuilding for years. [/QUOTE]
welcome to the forum.

[QUOTE=snagency;721330561]welcome to 2005??


welcome to the forum.[/QUOTE]

Thank you.

I'm not going to do this to death, but a thought did occur to me.

There are millions of men who take fenugreek powder with their meals living in the middle east and India that do not have adipose tissue on their chests.

So either the information we have been given is wrong or there's something else we do not know.

From what I've gathered the better bet is the extract of fenugreek testofan.

Apparently fenugreek doesn't do much as far as what labels claim(could be said about most), but I've read studies on testofan used on humans that had very impressive results.

Fenugreek seems to have it's place for certain things, but as far as standalone check out the extract testofan. If I was on pc I'd post a study...I just asked about this recently so figured relay what I got.

Fenugreek is used simply to increase his appetite
it is not anabolic
he does not either Gyno
stop believing in false laboratory study by private Americans who pay themselves by the brands