if the stomach is breaking down all proteins into amino acids, whats the bonus to protein powders over amino acid products besides the calories which you can just get from food.?
This isnt me telling anyone what to do...I just read about the stomach breaking all protein into amino acids and it was very vague so need some smart people to chime in.
show me an amino acid supplement that provides all the nonessential and essential amino acids?
I've never seen one.
[QUOTE=Rawthentik;532703273]show me an amino acid supplement that provides all the nonessential and essential amino acids?
I've never seen one.[/QUOTE]
this is the answers im after.
after reading what I read about all the break downs and different amino acids, im giving up cheap protein powders, cutting down powder intake and buying high quality.
if protein is broken down into amino acids...why need for food?
how does eat food?
Brb spending a fukking fortune on BCAAs and never eating chicken or beef ever again
[QUOTE=Dymethazine;532705103]if protein is broken down into amino acids...why need for food?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=askem;532706013]Brb spending a fukking fortune on BCAAs and never eating chicken or beef ever again[/QUOTE]
this is waayyy off from what I was asking..talking about protein powders not foods...
[QUOTE=DFA;532704893]this is the answers im after.
after reading what I read about all the break downs and different amino acids, im giving up cheap protein powders, cutting down powder intake and buying high quality.[/QUOTE]
dont protein powders typically contain more amino acids then an amino acid supplement?
Like if you take an amino acid supplement as you asked about im sure youd be missin out on select acids you would have got from a protein powder ??
[QUOTE=Rawthentik;532707453]dont protein powders typically contain more amino acids then an amino acid supplement?
Like if you take an amino acid supplement as you asked about im sure youd be missin out on select acids you would have got from a protein powder ??[/QUOTE]
yeah thats kinda what im asking..seems thats the answer.
reading about different foods to combine to get a wide range of amino acids..pretty interesting stuff!
[QUOTE=DFA;532706693]this is waayyy off from what I was asking..talking about protein powders not foods...[/QUOTE]
So what are you asking? Are you trying to avoid whey post workout and instead down bcaas instead? So forget 50g of protein and instead consume 50g of bcaa? You realize how expensive that is?
[QUOTE=askem;532708183]So what are you asking? Are you trying to avoid whey post workout and instead down bcaas instead? So forget 50g of protein and instead consume 50g of bcaa? You realize how expensive that is?[/QUOTE]
no was asking a vary broad question. just what you get out of each... I wasn't assuming I can drink 50g BCAAs...but now that you mention that how many grams of amino acids would you actually get out of say 30grams of a protein powder?..is it close?
and this isnt a question about WHAT should I do or buy just learning about how it all works.
look into scivation's xtend study.
idk, if true or not, but i like xtend. just purchased (3) 90 serving tubs.
:)
[QUOTE=DFA;532709003]no was asking a vary broad question. just what you get out of each... I wasn't assuming I can drink 50g BCAAs...but now that you mention that how many grams of amino acids would you actually get out of say 30grams of a protein powder?..is it close?
and this isnt a question about WHAT should I do or buy just learning about how it all works.[/QUOTE]
Ohh ok. Gotcha
[QUOTE=Rawthentik;532703273]show me an amino acid supplement that provides all the nonessential and essential amino acids?
I've never seen one.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/pl/active.html[/url]
[QUOTE=quank;532716593][url]http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/pl/active.html[/url][/QUOTE]
that has protein? DFA said whats the bonus in consuming supplements containing protein if you can get amino acids from amino acid supplements (as in contain no protein?)
plus those dosings of acids are relatively low.
[QUOTE=DFA;532699663]if the stomach is breaking down all proteins into amino acids, whats the bonus to protein powders over amino acid products besides the calories which you can just get from food.?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Rawthentik;532717653]that has protein? DFA said whats the bonus in consuming supplements containing protein if you can get amino acids from amino acid supplements (as in contain no protein?)
plus those dosings of acids are relatively low.[/QUOTE]
actually he said protein powders and not supplements containing protein. there is a difference. the supplements that contain protein are not really considered a protein powder.
its basically a protein supplement, the low amino acid content is a result of the low protein content, its a weak protein supplement. protein powders contain more protein resulting in more mg per amino acids, i dont see how you would call an amino supplement an amino supplement when it contains protein, in that case you could call protein powders, amino supplements aswell?
[QUOTE=Rawthentik;532725233]its basically a protein supplement, the low amino acid content is a result of the low protein content, its a weak protein supplement. protein powders contain more protein resulting in more mg per amino acids, i dont see how you would call an amino supplement an amino supplement when it contains protein, in that case you could call protein powders, amino supplements aswell?[/QUOTE]
so you're saying Intrabolic, Intrafuse, and Intra-Aid are actually protein powders?
[QUOTE=quank;532727663]so you're saying Intrabolic, Intrafuse, and Intra-Aid are actually protein powders?[/QUOTE]
idk, do they contain protein and is there amino acid amount reflected on their protein content? and im sure these supplements have more then just amino acids/protein correct?
[QUOTE=Rawthentik;532728903]idk, do they contain protein and is there amino acid amount reflected on their protein content? and im sure these supplements have more then just amino acids/protein correct?[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ae/intrabolic.html[/url]
[url]http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/neo/intrafuse.html[/url]
[url]http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/univ/intraaid.html[/url]
if you buy Pink Magic, then you don't need protein or amino acids
:D
um, those dont have all the typical amino acids as seen in a protein supplement like what I asked for or like the prolab you posted correct?, protein supplements usually contain all the typicals,
Tryptophan
Valine
Threonine
Isoleucine
Leucine
Lysine
Phenylalanine
Methionine
Conditionally Essential Amino Acids (CAAs)
Arginine
Cystine
Tyrosine
Histidine
Proline
Glutamine & Precursors
Nonessential Amino Acids (NAAs)
Aspartic Acid
Serine
Glycine
Alanine
[QUOTE=asianstyles;532730783]if you buy Pink Magic, then you don't need protein or amino acids
:D[/QUOTE]
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FYI, free-form aminos have the same caloric value as peptide-bonded proteins. The two reasons for using complete proteins versus free form are a variance in digestive rates (free-form aminos are rapidly absorbed but also don't peak amino levels for prolonged periods of times) and di- and tri- peptides are more efficiently absorbed than free-form aminos are.
Empyrean Peptibolic contains all 20 amino acids and are in the form of di and tri peptides.
Proteins are the building blocks of everything and different amino acid sequences build proteins. The characteristics of a proteins is determined by the sequence in which the amino acids are arranged. There are many types of proteins.
1. Structural proteins: Keratin of hair and nails, collagen of bone. others for different functions
2. Enzymes
3. Transport
4. Hormonal Proteins
5. Contractile proteins
6. Storage proteins
7. Genetic proteins
8. Defense proteins
9. Receptor proteins
Not all proteins are used for bodybuilding as most people would assume on here.
Your body only breaks down proteins as it needs to, for whichever function it needs it needs the amino acids for to form a new type of protein. If a person is to take whole proteins than your body doesn't have to break it down if it fits the immediate need of the body for the function which it has to provide and it is complete as it is, like for repairing broken down muscle fibers, which happens after training. BCAA's can be used but they still have to form a protein to help with building the muscle and they are really expensive and require large amounts.
Whey powders usually contain all the amino acids. There are a total of 20 amino acids which are involved in human protein synthesis of which not all are essential, meaning that of those 20, 10 are synthesized by the body and need not be present in the diet. The 10 that have to present in the diet are Arginine, Methionine, Leucine, Lysine, Phenylalanine, Threonine, Tryptophan, Valine, Histidine and Isoleucine.
You shouldn't buy amino acid products as you don't really need them if your using whole foods and protein powder.
Besides the other nutritional needs for foods like chicken, they have all of the essential amino acids you need. You still require FFA's and minerals and other things your body needs so you cant just give up food and start taking BCAA's and other crap. Besides you can replace the taste. (-:
Hope this helped
Good luck. (-: