[QUOTE=DGreekStallion;519355063]NO HYPE, is there enough Vitamin C in C-BOL to reduce tolerance to the nitrates in it [I]and[/I] PS?[/QUOTE]
Is this a serious question?
Refer to post #32.
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[QUOTE=DGreekStallion;519355063]NO HYPE, is there enough Vitamin C in C-BOL to reduce tolerance to the nitrates in it [I]and[/I] PS?[/QUOTE]
Is this a serious question?
Refer to post #32.
[QUOTE=NO HYPE;519347443]What about twice per-day - pre and post?[/QUOTE]
Physicians commonly push large bolus IV nitrates for CHF without experiencing tolerance for 24-36 hrs +.
[QUOTE=NO HYPE;519353093]What about nitrite-mediated oxidative damage and/or glutathione depletion?[/QUOTE]
This is generally only a concern for chronic exposure to long acting nitrates. If one is healthy and takes supplemental nitrates once or twice a day, then he/she is giving themselves plenty of time for recuperation - especially in the instance of glutathione decrement. Although for oxidative damage/superoxide formation, co-supplementing with NAC/vit C/polyphenols is probably a good safety protocol - especially if used long term.
[QUOTE=neuron;519489513]This is generally only a concern for chronic exposure to long acting nitrates. If one is healthy and takes supplemental nitrates once or twice a day, then he/she is giving themselves plenty of time for recuperation - especially in the instance of glutathione decrement. Although for oxidative damage/superoxide formation, co-supplementing with NAC/vit C/polyphenols is probably a good safety protocol - especially if used long term.[/QUOTE]
Thank you for the response.
Well I take the C-BOL 90 mins. pre-workout and PS during.
[QUOTE=DGreekStallion;519592713]Well I take the C-BOL 90 mins. pre-workout and PS during.[/QUOTE]
Did your head explode? I didn't ever experience any headache.
[QUOTE=THEHUGE;519598353]Did your head explode? I didn't ever experience any headache.[/QUOTE]
I think I'm so angry from my DAA/BF stack I didn't notice it! :p
Na, I got a headache once or twice. Nothing really to write home about.
I couldn't open a new thread so I will ask here.
Insted of buying expensive nitric oxide pre-workout supps I was thinking of buying a potassium nitrate powder from ebay in kilo sizes.
I would dose it correctly (500-700mg)with a digital scale and stack it with creatine/beta alanine/vit c/dextroze.
What do you think about the idea, would it be as effective as other preworkouts with creatine nitrate in it and would it be safe?
[QUOTE=wwwsupplement;1025262103]Insted of buying expensive nitric oxide pre-workout supps I was thinking of buying a potassium nitrate
would it be as effective as other preworkouts with creatine nitrate in it and would it be safe?[/QUOTE]
I've been doing this for quite some time. Very well worth it.
Just make sure to use a source that isn't intened for firework displays. ;)
[QUOTE=wwwsupplement;1025262103]I couldn't open a new thread so I will ask here.
Insted of buying expensive nitric oxide pre-workout supps I was thinking of buying a potassium nitrate powder from ebay in kilo sizes.
I would dose it correctly (500-700mg)with a digital scale and stack it with creatine/beta alanine/vit c/dextroze.
What do you think about the idea, would it be as effective as other preworkouts with creatine nitrate in it and would it be safe?[/QUOTE]
I currently use Nutriguard Potassium Nitrate, and love out. I'd start off dosing it at around 300mg about 45min preworkout to assess your reaction, and go from there.
man...seems like Potassium Nitrate is the new rage :) glad we have a 600mg/4 capsules in Tropinol XP!
[QUOTE=VaughnTrue;1025268003]man...seems like Potassium Nitrate is the new rage :) glad we have a 600mg/4 capsules in Tropinol XP![/QUOTE]
I felt all alone until recently.
I honestly can't believe it's not in more formulas. Glad to see it in Tropinol.
I've got some future plans for it as well. ;)
[QUOTE=cjwav34;1025267223]I currently use Nutriguard Potassium Nitrate, and love out. I'd start off dosing it at around 300mg about 45min preworkout to assess your reaction, and go from there.[/QUOTE]
Glad to hear it's working out well for you. Have you made it past the 500mg mark yet?
[QUOTE=cjwav34;1025267223]I currently use Nutriguard Potassium Nitrate[/QUOTE]
Trying to get through to their R&D about the labeling is akin to speaking to a brick wall.:(
[QUOTE=NO HYPE;1025274033]Trying to get through to their R&D about the labeling is akin to speaking to a brick wall.:([/QUOTE]
are they usually slow as hell to ship? ordered it friday morning and the status is still "payment accepted"
[QUOTE=Madevilz;1025274903]are they usually slow as hell to ship? ordered it friday morning and the status is still "payment accepted"[/QUOTE]
I try to order in bulk for that very reason.
They recently had some construction going on or something, and my last order had a 10-day delay prior to shipping.
I'd have to assume it's become a hot item for them lately, so hopefully they'll get their chit together sooner than later.
[QUOTE=Madevilz;1025274903]are they usually slow as hell to ship? ordered it friday morning and the status is still "payment accepted"[/QUOTE]
I never got confirmation that it shipped, it just showed up at my job. I don't think you have to worry.
I wish Neuron was back....
thanks
and since you are here, are there any benefits in taking Potassium Nitrate on non workout days?
Does it matter if it's taken with food or not?
[QUOTE=Madevilz;1025278473]are there any benefits in taking Potassium Nitrate on non workout days?[/QUOTE]
None that would warrant my use of nitrates on non-workout days, but to each their own.
[QUOTE=Madevilz;1025278473]Does it matter if it's taken with food or not?[/QUOTE]
Food can slow the onset of effects, but it likely won't make a significant difference.
And for all those who are interested, it would be wise to coingest a nitrosation inhibitor such as vitamin-c:
[url]http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=151698863&p=1022694973&viewfull=1#post1022694973[/url]
[QUOTE=NO HYPE;1025281723]None that would warrant my use of nitrates on non-workout days, but to each their own.[/QUOTE]
damn, strong value, 12 bucks for 180 workouts.
[QUOTE=JayLS1-327;1025278303]I wish Neuron was back....[/QUOTE]
Wurd.
One of my mentors for sure --> can't forget about coop though.
They're with us in spirit though. ;)
Where did he go?
Last thing I remember of him was his huge debate with Alan Aragon about 7-keto...
I wish in10city was back...
[QUOTE=Madevilz;1025285353]Where did he go?[/QUOTE]
bannedville
[QUOTE=Madevilz;1025285353]I wish in10city was back...[/QUOTE]
x2
Both in10 & GeneGnomeX
whatever happened to shadar
i wonder if his mom is still enjoying lemonade xf protein
[QUOTE=Starkk;1025290033]whatever happened to shadar
i wonder if his mom is still enjoying lemonade xf protein[/QUOTE]
wont lie, that made me smile. Well played sir.
[QUOTE=Starkk;1025290033]whatever happened to shadar
i wonder if his mom is still enjoying lemonade xf protein[/QUOTE]
rofl
on spread
[QUOTE=JayLS1-327;1025278303]I never got confirmation that it shipped, it just showed up at my job.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, just remind them to send you the tracking options with the email confirmation.
[QUOTE=NO HYPE;1025273433]Glad to hear it's working out well for you. Have you made it past the 500mg mark yet?[/QUOTE]
Not yet, I'm still happy with 500mg at the moment. I'm thinking about upping it to 600-700mg a couple times next week to see how it goes.
At 500mg my arms already look like a roadmap, I can't even imagine what 700mg would look like :eek:
[QUOTE=cjwav34;1025340373]Not yet, I'm still happy with 500mg at the moment. I'm thinking about upping it to 600-700mg a couple times next week to see how it goes.
At 500mg my arms already look like a roadmap, I can't even imagine what 700mg would look like :eek:[/QUOTE]
Nice.