Which do you prefer?
Better for Chest?
Better for Triceps?
Better Overall?
*not couting that it's easier to add weight to dips
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Which do you prefer?
Better for Chest?
Better for Triceps?
Better Overall?
*not couting that it's easier to add weight to dips
[QUOTE=That70sShowDude;552823743]Which do you prefer?
Better for Chest?
Better for Triceps?
Better Overall?
*not couting that it's easier to add weight to dips[/QUOTE]
I can do 150 pushups nonstop in a short amount of time...
I have to do assisted dips and have to struggle to get 25 pounds assisted 12 times lol and I def feel dips A LOT more in my tris
[QUOTE=JustinT24;552830813]I can do 150 pushups nonstop in a short amount of time...
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damn man wish i could do that
[QUOTE=That70sShowDude;552823743]Which do you prefer?
Better for Chest?
Better for Triceps?
Better Overall?
*not couting that it's easier to add weight to dips[/QUOTE]
I think that you should do both!
push up are great for chest/arms/back/ mix it up with diff. kinds of push ups.
explosive push ups are the best.
Dips are also great and i personally do both p-ups and dips evrytime i go to the gym.
try 4 sets of 7 starting out with no weight untill you build stamina and you will soon see results!
[QUOTE=JustinT24;552830813]I can do 150 pushups nonstop in a short amount of time...
I have to do assisted dips and have to struggle to get 25 pounds assisted 12 times lol and I def feel dips A LOT more in my tris[/QUOTE]
def.
i do 4 sets of 8-10 and they are very hard. so im impressed! and with the push ups.
for the OP. 150 is GREAT! at one time but you should do them in sets and build up to that..
for example. 20 p-ups 5 sets until you get 100. and add once you build off of that.
Please Rep.
Both.
Do all of them. For triceps though, I personally find dips to work a lot better and for chest I do a mixture of different push-ups and explode every time I change into another one.
do both - dips being you weapon in the battle of Tricep growth
Given that someone who can do 20 pushups can do somewhere from 0 to 1 dip I'm not sure how one would compare the two. Do pushups until you are strong enough for dips then replace, unless we are talking about 1 armed pushups.
[QUOTE=JasonDB;552875123]Given that someone who can do 20 pushups can do somewhere from 0 to 1 dip I'm not sure how one would compare the two. Do pushups until you are strong enough for dips then replace, unless we are talking about 1 armed pushups.[/QUOTE]
This is exactly what I was getting at
Dips feel like they work out a totally diff muscle group then push ups. Like not even close to the same
I was kind of thinking that the question was like me asking how much can you bench press if you can can do tricep pushdowns with 100 pounds
Dips require more upper body strength than pushups do. One reason dips use full bodyweight resistance as compared to only partial bodyweight for pushups. Also (believe it or not) some lat is worked during dips. So having stronger lats definitely helps. Another thing, rom varies from person to person on dips. The lower you go, the more difficult they become.
But, adding weight to pushups and their variations will be highly effective in beefing up your chest, tris, and shoulders. Increasing rom for pushups by using raised bars is also very beneficial. Many cheat on standard pushups and only do half ass sets and claim to do more than they really can.
Do both somewhere in your program.
Pushups for chest and dips for tris. I enjoy doing dips a lot more though. You can really get them pumped up with just a few reps.
I am big fan of dips and vary how far forward I lean to hit the chest or triceps more.
i do both backtoback
Dips dips dips.
I also feel it a bit in my upper chest when I do them? Anybody else?
[QUOTE=bwoh;553292013]Dips dips dips.
I also feel it a bit in my upper chest when I do them? Anybody else?[/QUOTE]
I feel my upper chest when I lean forward far enough.
As far as dips or push ups... I end my workouts (not everyday) with a combo of both.
Dips til fail drop straight down and push ups til fail
Rest for about 60 seconds
Repeat for the 3 sets
Vary the type of push ups and the lean on the dips.
I swear that has me leaving the gym pumped and beat to hell on my chest and tris. Just givin my input cause it works for me but eveyone is different!
[QUOTE=JustinT24;552830813]I can do 150 pushups nonstop in a short amount of time...
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That's not a push up, that's floor humping.
For chest I do neither. Bench variants or fly variants for chest. For triceps though I say definitely dips. Nothing builds triceps better than weighted dips while keeping yourself vertical and really focusing on your tris.
[QUOTE=JustinT24;552830813]I can do 150 pushups nonstop in a short amount of time...
I have to do assisted dips and have to struggle to get 25 pounds assisted 12 times lol and I def feel dips A LOT more in my tris[/QUOTE]
Im tricep dominant from years of not training chest. I can do 30 bodyweight parallel bar dips in a clip when im fresh. Im around 16stone 225lbs yet I can only do maybe 20 push ups. Also find diamonds easier than regular. For years my only workout daily was a 32.5kg dumbell for 5 one arm snatches into 5 strict overhead presses into 5 clean and push presses each side for 5 sets dumbell only paused on floor during snatches and clean and push press. This blew my tris up more and had me in better shape than the 5 years before in ehich I followed a bbuilding split. Granted my diet was terrible. Now I only train bodyweight due to bad back which is probably the downside of my one dumbell workout. Cant imagine doing 150 push ups in a clip yet having to do assisted dips. I think it sounds far fetched. Anyway first post and off point. My opinion is dips are the best tricep exercise when done in high volume and push ups hit chest harder
couldn't of found an older post to dig up? lol
I think u must have to do both....
[QUOTE=9863;1244507283]couldn't of found an older post to dig up? lol[/QUOTE]
Was searching calisthenics asnd came across this and just had to join to comment lol didnt realise how old the post was. Can you imagine someone doing 150 push ups in 1 clip yet has to do dips on the assisted machine. Thats messed up. I do my dips straight into fiamonds into close grip then regular push ups for 5 sets back to back. Gotta do both
haha true, I don't mind adds abit of amusement to my afternoon :P
yeah I know what you mean
I don't do push ups but can squeeze out 10-12 bodyweight dips on a good day. (weigh 100kg/220lbs)
actually I lie, sometimes I smash out a quick 20-30 push ups as a warm up before I hit the bench press but that's the only time I will do them
[QUOTE=9863;1244517753]haha true, I don't mind adds abit of amusement to my afternoon :P
yeah I know what you mean
I don't do push ups but can squeeze out 10-12 bodyweight dips on a good day. (weigh 100kg/220lbs)
actually I lie, sometimes I smash out a quick 20-30 push ups as a warm up before I hit the bench press but that's the only time I will do them[/QUOTE]
I miss throwing heavy weight up but you only get one back and my lower is wrecked. I havent lost any size since switching to calisthenics but I was never ripped as I say my diets terrible I just work out for fun. I eat mcdonalds donner kebabs deep fried pizza in batter lol my orotein intakes abysmal too I have a pint maybe 2 of full fat milk after my workout. Gave up whey tribulus tablets hydroxy cut and creatine years ago. Waste of money for me as I like to eat and if your diets not in check you wont see results. Maybe thats why I havent lost size as my muscle mass has been built up on overtraining the same muscles daily with limited protein. Density in my tris is unreal. Id occasionaly do one arm floor presses with 45kg dumbell but again it was more for triceps. I just think triceps rock. All im concentrating on these days is triceps and forearms. Got some heavy grips recently which I do after high rep light dumbell curls with a towel wrapped around handle and upside down inverted holds for time on my dip bars. My forearms are gaining fast.
[QUOTE=That70sShowDude;552823743]Which do you prefer?
Better for Chest?
Better for Triceps?
Better Overall?
*not couting that it's easier to add weight to dips[/QUOTE]
i prefer:
weighted pushups for chest (warm up for chest day)
weighted dips for triceps (i never feel dips in my chest really, even when leaning forward and weighted)
they are totally different exercises imo. use both. whichever fits the goal for that particular day
Of course, you can do either dips or push ups in different ways to emphasize chest vs. triceps, but I typically just do dips for triceps, and push ups for chest.
I never quite feel chest dips in the right way, and leaning too far forward just feels awkward. Staying more upright just feels more natural. For push ups, its much easier to alter it in a way that hits the chest since you simply spread your hands wider (whereas the bars you use for dips may not be moveable).
I feel dips more in the lowers pecs and feel pushups more in the upper.
I also feel pushups work the lats and abs a bit better.