yeah im from humble niceville, fl. It was our first year playin rugby as a U-19 club but we still managed to finish 5-4 regular season.
im doin ws4sb3 and have to say im enjoying it quite well. i feel it really hit the muscles used in rugby.
I started at second row every game, im quite proud of thatbut stil humble to you south african and new zealand blokes.
Im glad to see some other rugby players on the forums though, the rest of these tossers can sock it with their football pads!
-Cheers.
[QUOTE=SEALwannabe;150946071]yeah im from humble niceville, fl. It was our first year playin rugby as a U-19 club but we still managed to finish 5-4 regular season.
im doin ws4sb3 and have to say im enjoying it quite well. i feel it really hit the muscles used in rugby.
I started at second row every game, im quite proud of thatbut stil humble to you south african and new zealand blokes.
Im glad to see some other rugby players on the forums though, the rest of these tossers can sock it with their football pads!
-Cheers.[/QUOTE]
haha greed, no HUGE pads and all those stoppages in play... we hust get down to business
I am more of a 7s specialist, my style of play doesn't fit that well into 15 a side, i play heads up rugby. When it works, it is poetry in motion, when it doesn't, i get smashed!
I am a fly half/playmaker in 7s, and because of my speed i play wing in 15s, or fullback, but i get bored and try to do too much.
nice i like the replies... anyone got any questions?
just a little update hear, my team have won both our games so far at the tournament and looking to make it 3 out of 3 on saturday... very happy with the games... scored yesterday and really run rings around them today i did even as a blindside flank... anyone else playing over the weekend or today?
my predictions for the super14 weekend
sharks win against highlanders
crusaders win over lions
blues win over brumbies
force win over waratahs
stormers win over cheetahs
hurricanes win over bulls
[QUOTE=SEALwannabe;150946071]Im glad to see some other rugby players on the forums though, the rest of these tossers can sock it with their football pads!
-Cheers.[/QUOTE]
Played both, love both. But in rugby I actually get to handle the ball.
[QUOTE=bkitko13;149805871]The toe raise basically will work the muscle around the area of your shin.[/QUOTE]
it will also work out the calf and ankle tedons
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i got a question, is this gonna be a sticky?
This is brilliant, about time we (rugby players of both code) get a proper thread going. Should defo be a sticky.
I play union in sunny *cough cough* old England. Playng for a south west 2 side which is 4 leagues of Premship. Finding it quite easy at the moment but i am finding now we are moving up the leagues that more personal training has to be put in.
Played County rugby on the weekend and i totally forgot how fast it was. im front row but people would not think that when they see me. I may not have the strength but i have got technique.
What sort of training do you guys do?!
[QUOTE=ruga buga;151188321] anyone else playing over the weekend or today?[/QUOTE]
nah
official competetion games start in 2 weeks for me, although im reserving this coming weekend (not tomorrow, but next Saturday) for my schools 2nds against a really,really,really good school. Just glad im reserving and not starting.
[QUOTE=ruga buga;151188321]anyone else playing over the weekend or today?[/QUOTE]
I got a trial game with my semi-pro outfit on saturday
[QUOTE=SEALwannabe;151376211]i got a question, is this gonna be a sticky?[/QUOTE]
probably not, so just keep bumping it up with results or questions or whatever... best of luck for everyone playing this weekend
[QUOTE=Will87;151380511]This is brilliant, about time we (rugby players of both code) get a proper thread going. Should defo be a sticky.
I play union in sunny *cough cough* old England. Playng for a south west 2 side which is 4 leagues of Premship. Finding it quite easy at the moment but i am finding now we are moving up the leagues that more personal training has to be put in.
Played County rugby on the weekend and i totally forgot how fast it was. im front row but people would not think that when they see me. I may not have the strength but i have got technique.
What sort of training do you guys do?![/QUOTE]
im running bill starrs 5x5 just to get mt strength up again after the 3 month layoff from injury... im thinking of running it with cleans instead of rows, what you guys think? more like the original routine but without the high pulls
Im playing this weekend. We have 2 matches left of the season. Do you guys play 7's over the summer? Im off to Poland in May to play 10's and hopefully off to New York in Novemeber to play in the 7's tournment there.
Im not really doing a proper weight routine at the moment, i have got a fractured hand so im taking the weights easy so i can still play on the weekend.
Will be starting a fulll routine in a few weeks. Have to try and fit it in around work and is going to look something liek this:
Mon:[lunch] Gym
Tues: [pm]Kettle ball training (and swiss ball)
Wed : Gym @ Lunch
Thurs: [pm] Kick boxing
Fri: [lunch] Gym
Sat: [am] Spin Class, poss followed by body pump
Sun: REST or Light Swim
Will be doing 2 or 3 long runs a week then when it gets closer to the season i will start to put the sprints in on Tuesday nights and Saturday. This is still only a rough plan. Still need to fit it in all around work...
[QUOTE=ruga buga;151592321]im running bill starrs 5x5 just to get mt strength up again after the 3 month layoff from injury... im thinking of running it with cleans instead of rows, what you guys think? more like the original routine but without the high pulls[/QUOTE]
Bill Starrs is like Madcows 5x5 isnt it (i think Madcows is a slight adaptation of Bill Starrs, Starrs being the originial). If so, then great idea. That is a great routine.
Im switching off WS4SB now that the season is upon me, going over onto my schools Rugby weights program (they hav specific ones for tight forwards, loosies and backs - its a cool idea.)
[QUOTE=monatu;151626401]Bill Starrs is like Madcows 5x5 isnt it (i think Madcows is a slight adaptation of Bill Starrs, Starrs being the originial). If so, then great idea. That is a great routine.
Im switching off WS4SB now that the season is upon me, going over onto my schools Rugby weights program (they hav specific ones for tight forwards, loosies and backs - its a cool idea.)[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.geocities.com/elitemadcow1/5x5_Program/Linear_5x5.htm[/url] i think we talking about the same one here? i just using the idea of starrs original template with the clean instead of row... i think this would be a better idea as an athlete... hmmm i would be interested to see what the specific program is for the forwards, would you post it when you get it? most school programs are ****, but for your sake i hope this is not true haha.
Im playing a match for the first time since I broke my ankle back in september
I normally play loose head prop, think they might let me loose at number 8
I know Im either gonna have a great game or a really really bad one
gonna give it my best though
All you can do is try your best. I know when i come back from a broke tib and fib i was ***tting my self but i had a good game. It will take a while for you to get your confidence back up.
montua - any chance fo getting a look at your loose heads work out that the schools gave you?
I have an old Bath rugby work out if anyone would like it, It is a summer fitness with some weights.
[QUOTE=Will87;151667051]All you can do is try your best. I know when i come back from a broke tib and fib i was ***tting my self but i had a good game. It will take a while for you to get your confidence back up.
montua - any chance fo getting a look at your loose heads work out that the schools gave you?
I have an old Bath rugby work out if anyone would like it, It is a summer fitness with some weights.[/QUOTE]
yes i would be very interested... hit me up on PM, i will rep
i have my first game on tuesday. im a forward and my cardio is garbage. only decided to try out for the rugby team like a month ago.
[QUOTE=ruga buga;151830621]yes i would be very interested... hit me up on PM, i will rep[/QUOTE]
x2.
Yep Im going in again to the gym on Monday, Ill try grab one then and post it up for you guys.
Its a periodized (started as hypertrophy, then went more strength-orientated, now entering the competition mode = lower reps, even more focus on building/conserviing strength) and a conjugate program, so the lifts change ever 3 or 4 weeks and so on so forth. So I wont be able to post the complete program, but I can post the current phase of the program, and I have a fair idea of what the previous phases looked like etc.
So yeh, Ill post it up sometime this week when I get hold of a copy.
Ah, just found a previous version of it. This wont be the one I will be using, this was probly the program a month or two ago. Anyway here one is:
Scrum Truck
Back Squat
Hammer Jammer
Incline Bench Press
Medball Pushups (Close)
Clean and Press
Db Row/Shrug Superset
Barbell Curl
Zotman Curl
Core:
-3xSwissball Crunch and Twist 20
-Shopping Trolley Arcs
-Double Arm/Leg
-3xPlanks 1 minute
This is done 2-3 times a week (most will do it 3x a week). And I assume if you do it Mon/Wed/Fri, you can do something other than Squat/Bench on Wednesday, to let yourself recover (i know I cant max squat/bench Mon/Wed/Fri).
All sets (3 sets) - 8 reps, 6 reps, 4 reps - Weight scales up as reps decrease
1 minute for planks.
Scrum Truck is a machine that basically trains the driving portion of a scrum...you get in the scrum position, load the weights on and drive. I dont really know how effective it is...
Hammer Jammer is like a push press on the Hammer Strength machine thing, a lot of people rave about it and it seems to have gotten good results.
So yeh this was the Tight 5 workout from a while ago, the lifts would have switched over to new ones and the reps will have changed somewhat (they cycle in Front Squats, Flat Bench, Dumbbell Bench, Deadlifts, Power Cleans, Hang Cleans, Seated Rows, Pullups etc etc) as well, so Ill post the most recent one when I get hold of it this week.
They seem to have gotten great results on it so far
About 5 months ago, when they were Strength tested - they got on average about 20 reps of 60 kg on Squats, and 12 reps of 60 kg on bench.
When they were tested this past week, they got on average about 5-10 reps of 100 kg on bench, and about 15-35 reps of 100 kg Back squats. (were not a dominant rugby school, so these are good results. (I was on WS4SB before, Im switching over to ther routine as soon as I can, my bench is only about 5 reps of 80 kg's atm)
I dont know how it would work for an experienced lifter, as it still relies fairly heavily on Linear progress. Also, we are only really being taught now how to do proper Power/Hang Cleans, so ther will be more explosive moves in it from now on.
The backline/loose forward programs are different, I dont know to what extent but they seem to do different exercises. While we work more with heavy Squats, Deads, Bench and Power Cleans they seem to do more work with Jump Squats, Explosive Leg Press'es and the like.
[QUOTE=Snowman723;151933651]x2.[/QUOTE]
x3
I wouldnt mind seeing that Bath Weights/Fitness program
guys just an update, we just won our third game at a pre-season tournament, very happy with the wins
3 outta 3 :)
[QUOTE=monatu;151936161]Yep Im going in again to the gym on Monday, Ill try grab one then and post it up for you guys.
Its a periodized (started as hypertrophy, then went more strength-orientated, now entering the competition mode = lower reps, even more focus on building/conserviing strength) and a conjugate program, so the lifts change ever 3 or 4 weeks and so on so forth. So I wont be able to post the complete program, but I can post the current phase of the program, and I have a fair idea of what the previous phases looked like etc.
So yeh, Ill post it up sometime this week when I get hold of a copy.
Ah, just found a previous version of it. This wont be the one I will be using, this was probly the program a month or two ago. Anyway here one is:
Scrum Truck
Back Squat
Hammer Jammer
Incline Bench Press
Medball Pushups (Close)
Clean and Press
Db Row/Shrug Superset
Barbell Curl
Zotman Curl
Core:
-3xSwissball Crunch and Twist 20
-Shopping Trolley Arcs
-Double Arm/Leg
-3xPlanks 1 minute
This is done 2-3 times a week (most will do it 3x a week). And I assume if you do it Mon/Wed/Fri, you can do something other than Squat/Bench on Wednesday, to let yourself recover (i know I cant max squat/bench Mon/Wed/Fri).
All sets (3 sets) - 8 reps, 6 reps, 4 reps - Weight scales up as reps decrease
1 minute for planks.
Scrum Truck is a machine that basically trains the driving portion of a scrum...you get in the scrum position, load the weights on and drive. I dont really know how effective it is...
Hammer Jammer is like a push press on the Hammer Strength machine thing, a lot of people rave about it and it seems to have gotten good results.
So yeh this was the Tight 5 workout from a while ago, the lifts would have switched over to new ones and the reps will have changed somewhat (they cycle in Front Squats, Flat Bench, Dumbbell Bench, Deadlifts, Power Cleans, Hang Cleans, Seated Rows, Pullups etc etc) as well, so Ill post the most recent one when I get hold of it this week.
They seem to have gotten great results on it so far
About 5 months ago, when they were Strength tested - they got on average about 20 reps of 60 kg on Squats, and 12 reps of 60 kg on bench.
When they were tested this past week, they got on average about 5-10 reps of 100 kg on bench, and about 15-35 reps of 100 kg Back squats. (were not a dominant rugby school, so these are good results. (I was on WS4SB before, Im switching over to ther routine as soon as I can, my bench is only about 5 reps of 80 kg's atm)
I dont know how it would work for an experienced lifter, as it still relies fairly heavily on Linear progress. Also, we are only really being taught now how to do proper Power/Hang Cleans, so ther will be more explosive moves in it from now on.
The backline/loose forward programs are different, I dont know to what extent but they seem to do different exercises. While we work more with heavy Squats, Deads, Bench and Power Cleans they seem to do more work with Jump Squats, Explosive Leg Press'es and the like.[/QUOTE]
Sick stuff dude, i've heard of the scrum truck too...looks cool
So reading this thread made me think - anyone know of any fun skills (passing, kicking, offloading, tackling, whatever!) based drills that I can chuck into my summer stuff? Got a few ideas but not all that many... Would probably either be on my own or with one maybe two other guys, which is a bit of a problem but any ideas on how to work around it?
[QUOTE=Dickyw;152262011]So reading this thread made me think - anyone know of any fun skills (passing, kicking, offloading, tackling, whatever!) based drills that I can chuck into my summer stuff? Got a few ideas but not all that many... Would probably either be on my own or with one maybe two other guys, which is a bit of a problem but any ideas on how to work around it?[/QUOTE]
Ummm....
Kick the ball as far as you can, run to where it lands and do 25 push-ups
repeat until exhausted
????
[QUOTE=Dickyw;152262011]So reading this thread made me think - anyone know of any fun skills (passing, kicking, offloading, tackling, whatever!) based drills that I can chuck into my summer stuff? Got a few ideas but not all that many... Would probably either be on my own or with one maybe two other guys, which is a bit of a problem but any ideas on how to work around it?[/QUOTE]
mate it depends on what position you play????
for example a hooker can practise quite well on his own:
get a ball position yourself on the goaline facing the poles then throw in like you would to the line out from 5m 5 times in a row, then move back 2m and do the same thing, move back another 2m and so on... if you miss it go back to the beginning and start again.... you can work well on your own or with a partner it just depends on what position you play, you wouldn't want to practise your box kicking if you were a lock for example
[QUOTE=ruga buga;152426761]for example a hooker can practise quite well on his own:
get a ball position yourself on the goaline facing the poles then throw in like you would to the line out from 5m 5 times in a row, then move back 2m and do the same thing, move back another 2m and so on... if you miss it go back to the beginning and start again.... you can work well on your own or with a partner it just depends on what position you play, you wouldn't want to practise your box kicking if you were a lock for example[/QUOTE]
Brilliant Post, that is what i did when i was a hooker. I used hit the poles 10 times move back and do press ups and sit ups. I would repeat this till i was hitting the poles from the 22 then working back in.
There are many things that you can do to build up your basic skills and reaction times. I know they are expensive but you could try and get hold a rugby traininer (i think this the name) or pass developer ball... these are weighted rugby balls. VERY VERY good for building up wrist strength.
Another is you can get a "reaction" ball
[url]http://www.1st4sport.com/1st4sportsite/pages/product/product.asp?prod=AGBALL[/url]
Throw that against the wall. That is good for you.
Running along a set distance, i usuall use the 5 yard line just off the try line run/jog and then pass the ball against the post.... helps you to hit a targert. To make it different... you have set cones on the line so pss at these cones so your first one would: be lateral with the post so you would be doing a flat pass
second one: few yards in front of the first
third one: few yards again.
Then once you have hit each one of them 5 - 10 times change hands and then once you have done that move out to 10m's away from the post and be STRICT on your self. If you miss the post when you pass it.... start phase again. So if you muck up on cone 3.... go straight back to cone one and start again.
Ill have a think. Im jsut off to coach my little ones and then ill come back and post a few more ideas up.
Will