What do you guys thinks is the more effective bicep exercise for building muscle personally i do the chin up grip on the lat pulldown machine and my biceps are sore the next day i cant achieve that soreness with curls
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What do you guys thinks is the more effective bicep exercise for building muscle personally i do the chin up grip on the lat pulldown machine and my biceps are sore the next day i cant achieve that soreness with curls
Curls will isolate the biceps (well, with some forearm in there, too), chin ups are more of a compound, that has some biceps activation. I mean it would be hard to call one more effective than the other. They both can fit into a program. Some people have well developed biceps without isolation work, most don't.
[QUOTE=KevMcGreat;941072853]What do you guys thinks is the more effective bicep exercise for building muscle personally i do the chin up grip on the lat pulldown machine and my biceps are sore the next day i cant achieve that soreness with curls[/QUOTE]
Do both.
anyone who does chin ups INSTEAD of curls for biceps is a full blown retard
[QUOTE=ThickAsABrick;941079913]anyone who does chin ups INSTEAD of curls for biceps is a full blown retard[/QUOTE]
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brb using deadlifts as a forearm isolation exercise
Your biceps are secondary target muscles when doing proper chin up primarily fir lats. But I suggest you do couple of bicep workouts, such as alternating DB curl and EZ Barebell curl, to stimulate the fibers
[QUOTE=ThickAsABrick;941079913]anyone who does chin ups INSTEAD of curls for biceps is a full blown retard[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=ThickAsABrick;941079913]anyone who does chin ups INSTEAD of curls for biceps is a full blown retard[/QUOTE]
Couldn't have said it any better myself.
[QUOTE=Xuaxace;941081423]this
brb using deadlifts as a forearm isolation exercise[/QUOTE]
Idk how good of an analogy that is. Not nearly as important to isolate forearms in a routine as it would be to isolate biceps.
Reverse wrist curls of peace.
Curl
[QUOTE=KevMcGreat;941072853]What do you guys thinks is the more effective bicep exercise for building muscle personally i do the chin up grip on the lat pulldown machine and my biceps are sore the next day i cant achieve that soreness with curls[/QUOTE]
Don't train for "soreness;" train to progressively lift more weight and/or more reps with good form on a week-to-week basis.
Some combination of direct (such as any Curl variant) and indirect (such as your pulldowns, or any other 'pull' exercise) will generally work the best to build biceps.
I never met a bodybuilder who had a good pair of arms who got them by only working them indirectly.
[QUOTE=lee__d;941076963]Curls will isolate the biceps (well, with some forearm in there, too), chin ups are more of a compound, that has some biceps activation. I mean it would be hard to call one more effective than the other. They both can fit into a program. Some people have well developed biceps without isolation work, most don't.[/QUOTE]
Chin ups are [I]more of a[/I] compound because it is in fact a compound exercise while the curl is an isolation exercise.
Reason being is Chins have more than one joint moving during the movement while curls (should) only have one joint moving during the movement. How many muscles are involved doesn't dictate compound or isolation. One exercise can not be more compound than another compound.
[QUOTE=chazzy1864;941104813]One exercise compound than another compound.[/QUOTE]
I disagree sometimes I like to do some exercises that are little more compounder than other less compouder though not isolation.
[QUOTE=DYTrainer;941106683]I disagree sometimes I like to do some exercises that are little more compounder than other less compouder though not isolation.[/QUOTE]
Such as?
[QUOTE=chazzy1864;941104813]Chin ups are [I]more of a[/I] compound because it is in fact a compound exercise while the curl is an isolation exercise.
Reason being is Chins have more than one joint moving during the movement while curls (should) only have one joint moving during the movement. How many muscles are involved doesn't dictate compound or isolation. One exercise can not be more compound than another compound.[/QUOTE]
Semantics of peace. Although I can see my wordiness getting me in trouble on that one.
[QUOTE=KevMcGreat;941072853]What do you guys thinks is the more effective bicep exercise for building muscle personally i do the chin up grip on the lat pulldown machine and my biceps are sore the next day i cant achieve that soreness with curls[/QUOTE]
Curls are a bicep exercise. Chin ups are a back exercise.
There are more variables to the soreness thing than just what exercise you do. If you don't feel curls are working your biceps adequately it's probably worth addressing your curl form...
[QUOTE=KevMcGreat;941072853]What do you guys thinks is the more effective bicep exercise for building muscle personally i do the chin up grip on the lat pulldown machine and my biceps are sore the next day i cant achieve that soreness with curls[/QUOTE]
Both are good exercises for the biceps. Who says that performing the biceps exercise on the Chinup bar is retard or curl is better are the ones who can't perform few reps of of biceps exercise on the high bar. So they prefer the dumbbells or bar curls.
I know BB's who built their biceps mainly relying on the high bar(Chinup) for biceps exercise. And their biceps are really cut well.
Those are also the ones who rely on no weights but their body to build muscles. Like doing pushups(different methods, one or 2 fingers..), dips, chinups, abs..
Those are the most ripped BB's I know, maybe not huge big muscles like some freaky stupid BB's but good shape shredded symmetric physical body.
This is what matters.
[QUOTE=Ayrebebb;941161553]Who says that performing the biceps exercise on the Chinup bar is retard or curl is better are the ones who can't perform few reps of of biceps exercise on the high bar.[/QUOTE]
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OP - The best way to grow your biceps are to isolate them. Try different iso exercises if you are stalling with preacher curls. Seated incline dumbells work really well for hitting an area that preachers don't. Hammers, wide grip BB.
Do both. Allegedly they each work opposite attachments of the muscle.
[QUOTE=Ayrebebb;941161553]Both are good exercises for the biceps. Who says that performing the biceps exercise on the Chinup bar is retard or curl is better are the ones who can't perform few reps of of biceps exercise on the high bar. So they prefer the dumbbells or bar curls.
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Yep, you caught me. The the truth is I can only do a couple of chin ups. That's why I prefer bicep exercises for biceps.
[QUOTE=SIG4;941261313]Yep, you caught me. The the truth is I can only do a couple of chin ups. That's why I prefer bicep exercises for biceps.[/QUOTE]
Because I know what am talking about..
I'd say curls by miles.