Gaining muscle from 7-Keto DHEA?

I started taking 7-Keto DHEA a few weeks ago along with coleus forskholin 2-3 times a day before a meal. Was using it in the hopes of minimizing any fat gain will on a lean bulking regimen. I do not notice fat loss, I am warmer from the coleus forskholin (I only took coleus forskholin while cutting and with other fat burners), I can't say I feel anything from the 7-Keto DHEA but I am up 4+ lbs (not fat but slight water) and my diet and workout has been identical from when i was not taking the above 2 supps. Just curious if anyone has ever noticed muscle gain from 7-Keto DHEA.

From an article on BB.com:

[quote]Keto enables the body to build muscle in a growth promoting environment.* It may also increase your body's ability to burn calories.* It is a non-hormonal, non-androgenic derivative of DHEA.

The groundbreaking new micronutrient 7-Keto, a patented compound which, by activating thermogenic enzymes, "revs up" the basal metabolic rate and thus "burns" calories more rapidly and continually throughout the day, even while resting, as well as inhibit the storage of fat within the body.* [/quote]

BTW..I find it interesting that 7-Keto DHEA is non hormonal while DHEA is.

[QUOTE=NY Muscle;495378731]I started taking 7-Keto DHEA a few weeks ago along with coleus forskholin 2-3 times a day before a meal. Was using it in the hopes of minimizing any fat gain will on a lean bulking regimen. I do not notice fat loss, I am warmer from the coleus forskholin (I only took coleus forskholin while cutting and with other fat burners), I can't say I feel anything from the 7-Keto DHEA but I am up 4+ lbs (not fat but slight water) and my diet and workout has been identical from when i was not taking the above 2 supps. Just curious if anyone has ever noticed muscle gain from 7-Keto DHEA.

From an article on BB.com:



BTW..I find it interesting that 7-Keto DHEA is non hormonal while DHEA is.[/QUOTE]

7-Keto is a metabolite of DHEA. Certain metabolites of 7-Keto do have effects that could contribute to muscle gain. my guess is it's a combo along with the forskolin.

[QUOTE=NY Muscle;495378731]I started taking 7-Keto DHEA a few weeks ago along with coleus forskholin 2-3 times a day before a meal. Was using it in the hopes of minimizing any fat gain will on a lean bulking regimen. I do not notice fat loss, I am warmer from the coleus forskholin (I only took coleus forskholin while cutting and with other fat burners), I can't say I feel anything from the 7-Keto DHEA but I am up 4+ lbs (not fat but slight water) and my diet and workout has been identical from when i was not taking the above 2 supps. Just curious if anyone has ever noticed muscle gain from 7-Keto DHEA.

From an article on BB.com:



BTW..I find it interesting that 7-Keto DHEA is non hormonal while DHEA is.[/QUOTE]

yup,it does however offer many of the same benefits.

immune,fat loss,muscle gain,etc...

[QUOTE=NY Muscle;495378731]I started taking 7-Keto DHEA a few weeks ago along with coleus forskholin 2-3 times a day before a meal. Was using it in the hopes of minimizing any fat gain will on a lean bulking regimen. I do not notice fat loss, I am warmer from the coleus forskholin (I only took coleus forskholin while cutting and with other fat burners), I can't say I feel anything from the 7-Keto DHEA but I am up 4+ lbs (not fat but slight water) and my diet and workout has been identical from when i was not taking the above 2 supps. Just curious if anyone has ever noticed muscle gain from 7-Keto DHEA.

From an article on BB.com:



BTW..I find it interesting that 7-Keto DHEA is non hormonal while DHEA is.[/QUOTE]

Have you not heard of Lean Xtreme?

[QUOTE=Sldge;495385281]Have you not heard of Lean Xtreme?[/QUOTE]

Yes which will be on my soon to buy list. I just did not expect to gain muscle from the 7-keto but damn a good surprise to say the least. I think the forskholin helped it too.

The combination of 5AT, 7OH and Forskolin are the reason so many people gain muscle while losing weight on LX. With the right diet I think it rivals a lot of the weak PHs that usedto be available.

[QUOTE=Sldge;495775611]The combination of 5AT, 7OH and Forskolin are the reason so many people gain muscle while losing weight on LX. With the right diet I think it rivals a lot of the weak PHs that usedto be available.[/QUOTE]

interesting.

[QUOTE=Sldge;495775611]The combination of 5AT, 7OH and Forskolin are the reason so many people gain muscle while losing weight on LX. With the right diet I think it rivals a lot of the weak PHs that usedto be available.[/QUOTE]

On my 2nd run of LX and would definitely agree with this.