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So I've tried a ton of pre-workout supplements, not all, but quite a few. Though some work good, this one works great! I've been using it for almost a month and I get the same effectiveness every time. Has anyone else tried it?
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LMAO at the profile. Your joking right OP?
Who could say no to 3g of arginine?
[QUOTE=ChrisG12;852670523]Who could say no to 3g of arginine?[/QUOTE] He could
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[QUOTE=billaweed;852664823]So I've tried a ton of pre-workout supplements, not all, but quite a few. Though some work good, this one works great! I've been using it for almost a month and I get the same effectiveness every time. Has anyone else tried it?
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They see me trolling... they hating...
All that citrulline should provide for some painful pumps.
[QUOTE=Anthony21;852666833]LMAO at the profile. Your joking right OP?[/QUOTE]
Anthony, not really sure whats so funny about it. Profile looks good to me, plus having used it, it works great.
[QUOTE=billaweed;852678763]Anthony, not really sure whats so funny about it. Profile looks good to me, plus having used it, it works great.[/QUOTE]
Your lack of knowledge needs to be expanded then.
never doubt at all when someone involved in Multi-Level Marketing says how great a formula is.
[QUOTE=billaweed;852678763]Anthony, not really sure whats so funny about it. Profile looks good to me, plus having used it, it works great.[/QUOTE]
Because for 2 scoops, you're getting only 200mg of L-Citrulline (of which you want AT LEAST 1.5 grams, preferably 3 grams), and 2.1g of Creatine. The creatine is OKAY if you are getting creatine from other sources. Otherwise, no. The rest of the ingredients are worthless. Oh, and you get 100mg of caffeine per serving. That's a low amount compared to some other preworkouts out there, but you apparently have low tolerance if that still hits you. Which is the ONLY thing that is hitting you.
[QUOTE=TheGilmore;852687693]Because for 2 scoops, you're getting only 200mg of L-Citrulline (of which you want AT LEAST 1.5 grams, preferably 3 grams), and 2.1g of Creatine. The creatine is OKAY if you are getting creatine from other sources. Otherwise, no. The rest of the ingredients are worthless. Oh, and you get 100mg of caffeine per serving. That's a low amount compared to some other preworkouts out there, but you apparently have low tolerance if that still hits you. Which is the ONLY thing that is hitting you.[/QUOTE]
Well, I'm just saying it works great for me. I'm not saying that its not lacking anything in its profile, cause obviously it doesn't compare to MP Assult or Super Pump, etc.. But what I think is amazing about it is that I've had a lot more focus and endurance since I been using this and I've had the same pumps as before using, MP Assult, Super Pump, White Flood, and Jacked. I'm not telling anyone to go buy it, but curious if anyone else has tried it and felt as good as I have. Maybe its the lack of ingredients that makes me feel better? not sure, but I like it.
and yes, I'm caffeine sensitive...
[QUOTE=billaweed;852664823]So I've tried a ton of pre-workout supplements, not all, but quite a few. Though some work good, this one works great! I've been using it for almost a month and I get the same effectiveness every time. Has anyone else tried it?
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I use them, I love them. What 24 prods are u using? I use prepare and rebuild-endurance. Expensive? not when you use google search
Cheers,
Rob
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[B][center][size=+2]Herbalife = underdosed/subpar actives = FAIL[/size][/center][/B]
Good question, and no doubt you'll get lots of comments. As you consider the qualifications of those that leave comments, it might be wise to also weigh those comments against the following:
* Did you know Herbalife24 Sports products are tested and certified by the internationally recognized "Banned Substance Control Group"
* Did you know that food label fraud is up 60% in the USA!?
* Did you know that pharmaceutical companies have notified pharmacists NOT to recommend supplements because the level of FRAUD in their claims?
Who would you rather believe, the armchair Phd's leaving unfounded comments on the internet or have never even tried the product or used them used them properly, OR people with the credentials of those that head Herbalife:
* Did you know their CEO is a world class Triathlete, and the former head of Disney International (Michael O. Johnson)
* Did you know their Director of Sport & Fitness is a competitive cyclist and Ph.d in biochemistry, and inventor of their Sports24 range for athletes (Ph.d John Heiss)
* Did you know they're the only network marketing company in the world with a Nobel Prize Laureate in Medicine on their Board? (Ph.d Louis Ignarro)
* Did you know their Chairman of the Nutrition Advisory Board is a professor at UCLA, and rated, BY HIS PEERS, as #1 doctor in America in the fields of nutrition and obesity (Ph.d David Heber)
* Did you know the former director of the FDA (Ph.d Vasilios Frankos) now works for Herbalife. He could have cherry picked his next job with any pharmaceutical company, supplement company or law firm --- but he chose Herbalife because of their commitment to the most current research and advanced science, labeling ethics, and results for their customers --- thus ensuring beyond any reasonable doubt that their products are genuinely the BEST, and that what is on their labels is IN FACT in the container.
Food for thought.
#1 While many athletes wear big name sponsorships just to have their company name flashed across millions of TV screens, and on the glossy pages of sports magazines, Herbalife, on the other hand, sponsors no one that doesn't actually USE the products.
#2 With that in mind, do you really think the doctors, trainers, and coaches of multi-million dollar brands like David Beckham and LA Galaxy, Leo Messi and FC Barcelona would allow their athletes to use (and wear the name of) dangerous, or inferior supplements, or products from a "scam" marketing company? REALLY? These teams and their star athletes/assets are watched under the strictest security and certainly only get and use top quality that will enhance their performance.
* Did you know that the worlds strongest man uses Herbalife and over 100 Olympic and world class athletes?
* For more information, Zach (at) NutritionNewYou (dot) com
They aren't cheap, and they make no apology for it. Do you want a "pick-up truck" body or a mean, fit, sports car body? You looking for a bargain, or RESULTS? Do you sweat in the gym to achieve mediocrity or do you strive for the best your incredible body is capable of? Does BMW, Porsche, Ferrari, Lambourghini apologize for the expense of their cars -- hell no ... and Herbalife24 is no different and for the same reason, BUT the proof is in the pudding --- don't knock what you have not tried.
[QUOTE=Zpower2b;1027607303]Who would you rather believe, the armchair Phd's leaving unfounded comments on the internet or have never even tried the product or used them used them properly, OR people with the credentials of those that head Herbalife:[/QUOTE]
"Armchair Phd" here. While admittedly I do not have the credentials that could ever compare to those of the Herbalife scam co., I welcome you to challenge us armchair Phd's to evaluate your formulas in terms of the 'purported' efficacy in which Herbalife is attempting to portray. If you'd like, we could do this on an ingredient by ingredient/dose by dose basis in relation to the scientific data that annihilates your/Herbalife's advertisements and product claims.
The following is a quote from [one] of the FDA warning letters that were sent to Herbalife, that I think you and the people whom you are attemting to convince otherwise, might enjoy. Please let me know if you'd like more....
[QUOTE=Zpower2b]* Did you know Herbalife24 Sports products are tested and certified by the internationally recognized "Banned Substance Control Group"[/QUOTE]
rofl --> Speaking of "testing"....
[QUOTE=FDA][B]The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) performed an inspection of your firm located at 9660 Dilworth Road, Dallas, Texas. Our investigator found a number of violations of 21 CFR Part 111, Current Good Manufacturing Practice (CGMP) in Manufacturing, Packaging, Labeling, or Holding Operations for Dietary Supplements.
The inspection revealed that your Herbalife Ready Herbal Aloe for Digestive Health Dietary Supplement and Herbalife Herbal Aloe Concentrate for Digestive Health Dietary Supplement, products manufactured in your facility, are adulterated within the meaning of Section 402(g)(1) of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (the Act) in that the dietary supplements have been prepared, packed, or held under conditions that do not meet current good manufacturing practice regulations for dietary supplements[/B].[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Zpower2b;1027607303]Good question, and no doubt you'll get lots of comments. As you consider the qualifications of those that leave comments, it might be wise to also weigh those comments against the following:
* Did you know Herbalife24 Sports products are tested and certified by the internationally recognized "Banned Substance Control Group"
* Did you know that food label fraud is up 60% in the USA!?
* Did you know that pharmaceutical companies have notified pharmacists NOT to recommend supplements because the level of FRAUD in their claims?
Who would you rather believe, the armchair Phd's leaving unfounded comments on the internet or have never even tried the product or used them used them properly, OR people with the credentials of those that head Herbalife:
* Did you know their CEO is a world class Triathlete, and the former head of Disney International (Michael O. Johnson)
* Did you know their Director of Sport & Fitness is a competitive cyclist and Ph.d in biochemistry, and inventor of their Sports24 range for athletes (Ph.d John Heiss)
* Did you know they're the only network marketing company in the world with a Nobel Prize Laureate in Medicine on their Board? (Ph.d Louis Ignarro)
* Did you know their Chairman of the Nutrition Advisory Board is a professor at UCLA, and rated, BY HIS PEERS, as #1 doctor in America in the fields of nutrition and obesity (Ph.d David Heber)
* Did you know the former director of the FDA (Ph.d Vasilios Frankos) now works for Herbalife. He could have cherry picked his next job with any pharmaceutical company, supplement company or law firm --- but he chose Herbalife because of their commitment to the most current research and advanced science, labeling ethics, and results for their customers --- thus ensuring beyond any reasonable doubt that their products are genuinely the BEST, and that what is on their labels is IN FACT in the container.
Food for thought.
#1 While many athletes wear big name sponsorships just to have their company name flashed across millions of TV screens, and on the glossy pages of sports magazines, Herbalife, on the other hand, sponsors no one that doesn't actually USE the products.
#2 With that in mind, do you really think the doctors, trainers, and coaches of multi-million dollar brands like David Beckham and LA Galaxy, Leo Messi and FC Barcelona would allow their athletes to use (and wear the name of) dangerous, or inferior supplements, or products from a "scam" marketing company? REALLY? These teams and their star athletes/assets are watched under the strictest security and certainly only get and use top quality that will enhance their performance.
* Did you know that the worlds strongest man uses Herbalife and over 100 Olympic and world class athletes?
* For more information, Zach (at) NutritionNewYou (dot) com
They aren't cheap, and they make no apology for it. Do you want a "pick-up truck" body or a mean, fit, sports car body? You looking for a bargain, or RESULTS? Do you sweat in the gym to achieve mediocrity or do you strive for the best your incredible body is capable of? Does BMW, Porsche, Ferrari, Lambourghini apologize for the expense of their cars -- hell no ... and Herbalife24 is no different and for the same reason, BUT the proof is in the pudding --- don't knock what you have not tried.[/QUOTE]
You talked me into buying your sh*t supplements!
[QUOTE=Zpower2b;1027607303]the armchair Phd's leaving unfounded comments[/QUOTE]
The only thing "unfounded" here are Herbalife's product claims.
[QUOTE=Zpower2b;1027607303]* Did you know the former director of the FDA (Ph.d Vasilios Frankos) now works for Herbalife.[/QUOTE]
rofl.... I can only imagine why he no longer works for the FDA.
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[QUOTE=JayLS1-327;1027621223]You talked me into buying your sh*t supplements![/QUOTE]Wait, don't buy them yet...you have to use my special discount link!
[QUOTE=Zpower2b;1027607303]* Did you know the former director of the FDA (Ph.d Vasilios Frankos) now works for Herbalife. He could have cherry picked his next job with any pharmaceutical company, supplement company or law firm --- but he chose Herbalife because of their commitment to the most current research and advanced science, labeling ethics, and results for their customers --- [B]thus ensuring beyond any reasonable doubt that their products are genuinely the BEST, and that what is on their labels is IN FACT in the container.[/B][/QUOTE]
rofl.... Can I get some Bacillus subtilis up in this bish?
[QUOTE=Wikipedia]Scientific studies in 2007 by doctors at the University Hospital of Bern in Switzerland and the Liver Unit of the Hadassah-Hebrew University Medical Center in Israel found an association between consumption of Herbalife products and hepatitis.[37][41] In response, the Spanish Ministry of Health issued an alert asking for caution in consuming Herbalife products.[42] Herbalife has stated they are cooperating fully with Spanish authorities.[43]
By 2011, hospitals in Israel, Spain, Switzerland, Iceland, Argentina and the United States had reported liver damage in a number of patients, part of whom had used Herbalife products.[37][41][44][45][46][47][48][49][50][improper synthesis?] Some patients recovered after they had stopped taking the products, in others the disease continued, and two patients died. Several authors considered it plausible that Herbalife products were the cause of the observed liver disease. Herbalife employees claim there is no definitive proof that Herbalife products cause hepatoxicity or other liver problems.[51][/QUOTE]
Herbalife trolls? Is this real life?
I have met Dr. Frankos on several occasions. He left the FDA because he was retiring. Herbalife offered him a position and he took it. Don't assume things you don't know. If you want to compare facts then compare facts. But don't diss a guy that was sharing what has worked for him, that is what this forum is about..."sharing" here are some facts, Herbalife has 33 years of experience, more than any other company in the industry. Herbalife closed 2012 with over 6.4 billion dollars in sales. Growing by a Billion dollars a year for the past 4 years, This makes Herbalife the fastest growing company in the health and wellness industry to date. I sincerely doubt it is because of their great distributors but because of the products. And the products produce results. And people spend money on results. If you have a better product then why arent more people buying from you? Just a question. I am not a distributor but I've been thinking about it because I too love the products.
Negged all the herbalife lovers!
[QUOTE=Carlitosvilla81;1045459213]I have met Dr. Frankos on several occasions. He left the FDA because he was retiring. Herbalife offered him a crap load of money because so many morons buy HL's underdosed products, and he took it.[/QUOTE]
Fixed
Herbalife??
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[QUOTE=rhadam;852672293]They see me trolling... they hating...[/QUOTE]
Just remembered "Ridin Dirty" LOL!
p.s: Strong 200mg of L-citrulline. I MUST BUY!!!
/kidding
Did you guys forget how all those Arginine based pre workout pump supplements worked great just a few years ago ?
The supp. section is hilarious.
[QUOTE=diguincoutoreis;1045537101]Just remembered "Ridin Dirty" LOL!
p.s: Strong 200mg of L-citrulline. I MUST BUY!!!
/kidding[/QUOTE]
your picture certainly reflects your knowledge on nutrition...abysmal. "200 mg of citrulline"....please. Please let me know exactly what citrulline is and then I will give you a little more props. Oh wait, I already know what citrulline does because I read the book by dr. louis ignarro, herbalife board of product development, and also Nobel Prize winner from 1996 (or 1998 one of the two). Sure, viagra and all subsequent nitric oxide knowledge stemmed from his ground-breaking research...but what does that matter. Sure, he was solely responsible for deciphering how NO is produced in arterial walls, making it paramount to the science behind atherosclerosis and heart disease in general. Sure, he pinpointed the exact amounts of citrulline and arginine needed to maximize nitric oxide molecule's lifespan. Sure, he is also on the board of Herbalife. But what does that matter?
You don't know what citrulline is. You don't know what arginine is. You don't know what nitric oxide is, what it is suppposed to do, how it is produced naturally, or how you can increase your body's creation of the wonder molecule.
But how dare you show up on a bodybuilding forum with a pale back shot of what could be explained as routine muscle growth of an adolescent, at best, and pipe in about a molecule that you neither understand or use correctly. Continue buying NO explode. After all, there are huge, HGH and steroid induced freaks of nature that have personal nutrition coaches and trainers at their disposal, standing next to the product you take. Getting paid to take their picture with it, they laugh their way to the bank as you buy this hastily produced and poor-quality supplement.
If your supplements are so good, why don't you visit their website, and find me materials detailing the manufacturing practices and quality control procedures in place. You won't find it on bsnonline.com so don't bother checking it out. However, check out myherbalife.com and enjoy a quality, transparent company that will gladly tell you where the products are produced, where the soybeans have been grown, and even the exact percentages and numbers of ingredients in the products.
Have fun wasting your hard earned time and money on supplements that your "bodybuilder" (a.k.a. "my bro who lifts a lot) friend recommends for you. Make sure to dutifully ignore the lack of credentials and practical experience of said friend.
Ben, out.