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Has anyone tried this, what are your thoughts on a program set up like this
I've been making good gains on 5/3/1 but I want to throw in DE work For explosiveness for football... I came across a split like this
Monday - Dynamic effort (DE) bench press. Heavier overhead pressing.
Tuesday - Wendler's squat day. Dynamic effort (DE) deadlifts.
Thursday - Wendler's bench press day.
Friday - Wendler's deadlift day. Dynamic effort (DE) squats.
Accessories are similar to Westside weaknesses..
pretty bad idea.
both are training systems designed to be used as a whole. you're trying to pick and choose portions of them as if they were built in vacuums.
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
There is one and I believe its called Built like a badass. And sold by DeFranco on his website.
[QUOTE=StLRPh;433495351]There is one and I believe its called Built like a badass. And told by DeFranco on his website.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.defrancostraining.com/articles/38-articles/65-westside-for-skinny-bastards-part3.html[/url]
Made for football players. I ran it for track, got more explosive/stronger.
Why don't you just switch to the westside program if you want to build explosion
[QUOTE=pntbll687;433541571]Why don't you just switch to the westside program if you want to build explosion[/QUOTE]
because butchering other people's programs works better than what the original programmer came up with. I had great gains on a DC, GVT, 5/3/1, Waterbury hybrid
[url]http://muscleandbrawn.com/forums/powerlifting-strength-training/1648-westside-wendlers-5-3-1-hydrid.html[/url]
edit: this was a decussion on this, may help
[QUOTE=pntbll687;433541571]Why don't you just switch to the westside program if you want to build explosion[/QUOTE]
I like the way 5/3/1 split is set up, its simple and linear.. so basically I'm just curious how you'd fit DE work into 5/3/1..
go ask wendler on the Q&A and see what he says. you might wanna look it up first so you don't waste his time. or, i can just tell you now that HE says it's a bad idea. either way, you're gonna be disappointed.
If you changed the DE day and got rid of the bands/chains and changed it into straight weight speed (70-80%) For sets of 2-3 then it would probably work better. Westside is designed for the equipped lifter and messing around with it in raw lifting and bastardizing it probably won't do you much good.
[QUOTE=nickloporchio;433625031]I like the way 5/3/1 split is set up, its simple and linear.. so basically I'm just curious how you'd fit DE work into 5/3/1..[/QUOTE]
This has been asked a lot and he always says not to do dynamic effort with 5/3/1
You are 17, with limited lifting experience. Do not screw around with programs created by guys who were lifting before you were a hormone storm. Pick a program, train your ass off, eat and sleep a lot.
OP:
While the conjugate method can be just about anything you want, you don't want to bastardize the importance of three disciplines within it. People regularly build a progressive overload aspect into the conjugate method, but you have to be experienced enough to control your volume manually. Bridging the ME and RE disciplines is fine if you know what you're doing, but it certainly becomes something different in the process... closer to a starting strength type template.
[QUOTE=kman025;433582171][url]http://muscleandbrawn.com/forums/powerlifting-strength-training/1648-westside-wendlers-5-3-1-hydrid.html[/url]
edit: this was a decussion on this, may help[/QUOTE]
Thumbs up on that. Thanks Kman.