Hi, new to the site but been lifting for a good 5 years. Wondering what your guys' take is regarding diet soda and weight loss? Been trying to lose some bodyfat but my friends keep telling me I need to cut out the diet coke. I drink roughly 4 a day.
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Hi, new to the site but been lifting for a good 5 years. Wondering what your guys' take is regarding diet soda and weight loss? Been trying to lose some bodyfat but my friends keep telling me I need to cut out the diet coke. I drink roughly 4 a day.
Nothing inherently wrong with it, a lot of people very successfully substitute calorie-filled drinks with diet drinks on cuts. It's just another tool.
[QUOTE=wake989;621233753]Hi, new to the site but been lifting for a good 5 years. Wondering what your guys' take is regarding diet soda and weight loss? Been trying to lose some bodyfat but my friends keep telling me I need to cut out the diet coke. I drink roughly 4 a day.[/QUOTE]
I had the same affliction when I was dieting...and then it became a lifestyle change...i would suggest to replace the soda's with crystal light or good ole h20...If you want to have the diet soda have it once a week as a treat to end the week and go from there. When trying to lose bodyfat you need to kick start your metabolism and you probably with due time cut it out completely and not become dependent on it.
You are taking the first step to change..its not easy for no one and wish you continued success in the journey !!
diet soda has 0 calories, why would you need to cut it out for a cut?
Nothing wrong with them, great way to stop temptations without f*cking your diet
[QUOTE=Purplekoolaid;621236313]diet soda has 0 calories, why would you need to cut it out for a cut?[/QUOTE]
This^. Unless a person is worried about the caffeine content and if so, there's caffeine free diet soda. IMO it's awesome to keep sanity on a cut
[QUOTE=Purplekoolaid;621236313]diet soda has 0 calories, why would you need to cut it out for a cut?[/QUOTE]
They say it mimics table sugar.
[QUOTE=wake989;621269513]They say it mimics table sugar.[/QUOTE]
They're morons.
[QUOTE=wake989;621269513]They say it mimics table sugar.[/QUOTE]
"they" also say creatine kills you, protein kills you, plastic cups kill you, cell phones will give you cancer and will kill you, etc, etc, etc.
Honestly I don't think it would effect at all. But there may be negative health affects. It's also not possible to act like sugar because diabetics routinely drink diet soda without effect on insulin levels
[QUOTE=Irish Iron;621271143]"they" also say creatine kills you, protein kills you, plastic cups kill you, cell phones will give you cancer and will kill you, etc, etc, etc.[/QUOTE]
..couldnt of said it better myself..
Ive heard the old addage of diet soda makes you retain weight by some unforseen occurence. But its the same people that tell me that when my feet get wet I'll get sick. Although, I still take 2-3 showers a day.
[QUOTE=Purplekoolaid;621236313]diet soda has 0 calories, why would you need to cut it out for a cut?[/QUOTE]
You are correct..Like I said this is personal preference..I said one a week especially if your not cutting and just starting to diet and exercise an an award. If you start with exceptions then you would like to try something else and fail.Everyone has a different opinion and that what he was asking..
Your talking to someone that was almost 400 lbs and knows about the downfalls of trying to lose weight. Like I mentioned before it comes down to what the goal is ? Starting and trying to cut from a desired weight.
Thanks for the feedback...
Good luck to all in the journey...
What diet soda does to you is satisfy a false craving. It works for the time being, but eventually, it makes you want to 'crash' (or binge eat) more frequently. Some people, however, can drink it and still avoid the crashes
I used to drink diet soda all the time, and my diets would go as followed: 3-4 days of perfect eating followed by a 'crash' where I would just collapse and eat whatever I could find. Now, I don't drink diet soda, and I can eat perfectly without feeling I 'need' to have a bad meal. I love soda, so instead of constantly drinking diet, I might have a regular coke once every 2 weeks or so. Bottom line: if you cut it out of your diet completely, you will find that you can stick with a diet longer.
[QUOTE=pistol321;621290053]What diet soda does to you is satisfy a false craving. It works for the time being, but eventually, it makes you want to 'crash' (or binge eat) more frequently. Some people, however, can drink it and still avoid the crashes
I used to drink diet soda all the time, and my diets would go as followed: 3-4 days of perfect eating followed by a 'crash' where I would just collapse and eat whatever I could find. Now, I don't drink diet soda, and I can eat perfectly without feeling I 'need' to have a bad meal. I love soda, so instead of constantly drinking diet, I might have a regular coke once every 2 weeks or so. Bottom line: if you cut it out of your diet completely, you will find that you can stick with a diet longer.[/QUOTE]
don't blame it on the soda. blame it on self Control
[QUOTE=Irish Iron;621271143]"they" also say creatine kills you, protein kills you, plastic cups kill you, cell phones will give you cancer and will kill you, etc, etc, etc.[/QUOTE]
This
[QUOTE=pistol321;621290053]What diet soda does to you is satisfy a false craving. It works for the time being, but eventually, it makes you want to 'crash' (or binge eat) more frequently. Some people, however, can drink it and still avoid the crashes
I used to drink diet soda all the time, and my diets would go as followed: 3-4 days of perfect eating followed by a 'crash' where I would just collapse and eat whatever I could find. Now, I don't drink diet soda, and I can eat perfectly without feeling I 'need' to have a bad meal. I love soda, so instead of constantly drinking diet, I might have a regular coke once every 2 weeks or so. Bottom line: if you cut it out of your diet completely, you will find that you can stick with a diet longer.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SEANxALLxDAY;621337953]don't blame it on the soda. blame it on self Control[/QUOTE]
actually he is correct....the diet soda makes you crave sweets..it does satisfy at the time but then gets ur body to crave it more
[QUOTE=Irish Iron;621271143]"they" also say creatine kills you, protein kills you, plastic cups kill you, cell phones will give you cancer and will kill you, etc, etc, etc.[/QUOTE]
I got teh aidz from the aspartic acid in proteinz
[QUOTE=pa mma;621346263]actually he is correct....the diet soda makes you crave sweets..it does satisfy at the time but then gets ur body to crave it more[/QUOTE]
but self control tells you no sweets if it doesnt fit you macros
Diet Soda
Posted on: February 11, 2009 5:34 PM, by Jonah Lehrer
One of the perverse pleasures of spending too much time in airports is getting to people watch. I put on my "anthropologist from Mars" glasses and pass the time by staring at strangers, watching what they eat, read and how they struggle to nap in uncomfortable positions. This morning, while waiting on a very delayed plane in the Portland airport, I watched a woman perform yoga by the gate.
But if I really were an anthropologist from Mars I'd be most puzzled by something else that people in airports do: drink lots of diet soda. I write this in the San Francisco airport, where I'm sitting on a bench with five other people, all of whom are sipping some sort of beverage with artificial sweetener in it, from Diet Snapple to Pepsi One.
This is a bizarre ritual, no? We're deliberating duping our tongue, enjoying the illusion of sweetness without the thing that the sweetness is supposed to represent: metabolic energy. What I find most ironic about these diet colas is that there's good evidence that fake sugar actually leads to weight gain. Consider this recent paper in Behavioral Neuroscience, which found that rats fed artificial sweeteners gained more weight than rats fed actual sugar:
Animals may use sweet taste to predict the caloric contents of food. Eating sweet noncaloric substances may degrade this predictive relationship, leading to positive energy balance through increased food intake and/or diminished energy expenditure. Adult male Sprague-Dawley rats were given differential experience with a sweet taste that either predicted increased caloric content (glucose) or did not predict increased calories (saccharin). We found that reducing the correlation between sweet taste and the caloric content of foods using artificial sweeteners in rats resulted in increased caloric intake, increased body weight, and increased adiposity, as well as diminished caloric compensation and blunted thermic responses to sweet-tasting diets. These results suggest that consumption of products containing artificial sweeteners may lead to increased body weight and obesity by interfering with fundamental homeostatic, physiological processes.
There's also some tentative evidence of the same effect in humans:
Splenda is not satisfying--at least according to the brain. A new study found that even when the palate cannot distinguish between the artificial sweetener and sugar, our brain knows the difference.
At the University of California, San Diego, 12 women underwent functional MRI while sipping water sweetened with either real sugar (sucrose) or Splenda (sucralose). Sweeteners, real or artificial, bind to and stimulate receptors on the taste buds, which then signal the brain via the cranial nerve. Although both sugar and Splenda initiate the same taste and pleasure pathways in the brain--and the subjects could not tell the solutions apart--the sugar activated pleasure-related brain regions more extensively than the Splenda did. In particular, "the real thing, the sugar, elicits a much greater response in the insula," says the study's lead author, psych ia trist Guido Frank, now at the Univer sity of Colorado at Denver. The insula, involved with taste, also plays a role in enjoyment by connecting regions in the reward system that encode the sensation of pleasantness.
The essential lesson is that the brain doesn't like being tricked. When you give us sweetness without the caloric energy, we end up craving calories more than ever.
I drink about 2 cans of diet pepsi/coke a day and it never hindered fat loss or muscle gain
If you have no control over what you eat then yes, diet soda doesn't help cravings in the long run. But I'd hope most people here have specific calorie goals and stick to them... in which case it makes zero difference whatsoever.
I don't care if I crave sweets... that's what my protein shakes are for. They are my twice or thrice daily milkshake. I look at deserts and am not interested because I know my shakes and protein bars taste AWESOME. That's the best cheat control you can possibly have. When healthy stuff tastes good there is no reason to have unhealthy stuff.
I drink about two or three 2 liters a day of Diet Mt. Dew (dead serious). And I'm pretty darn chisled and never had any problems with it.
And I'm going to continue drinking it. Because I never get to eat the foods I want too, but at least with this I can drink the things I want too.
-Spaz
[QUOTE=Big_Spaz;621433963]I drink about two or three 2 liters a day of Diet Mt. Dew (dead serious). And I'm pretty darn chisled and never had any problems with it.
And I'm going to continue drinking it. Because I never get to eat the foods I want too, but at least with this I can drink the things I want too.
-Spaz[/QUOTE]
LOL...2 2 liters a day!!!!!! LOL....I can totally picture you doing this for some reason and I have never met you in person!
[QUOTE=TheUnderdog;621438393]LOL...2 2 liters a day!!!!!! LOL....I can totally picture you doing this for some reason and I have never met you in person![/QUOTE]
I honestly do it man. And I don't even think twice about it. I drink it before the gym in the morning (while eating eggs), I drink it at work, when I get home, before bed. You name it.
The stuff is excellent. I mean don't get me wrong, I drink a TON of water as well. But Diet Mt. Dew is liquid gold.
-Spaz
[QUOTE=Big_Spaz;621433963]I drink about two or three 2 liters a day of Diet Mt. Dew (dead serious). And I'm pretty darn chisled and never had any problems with it.
And I'm going to continue drinking it. Because I never get to eat the foods I want too, but at least with this I can drink the things I want too.
-Spaz[/QUOTE]
Spaz, you're a freak, you don't count. :p ;) :D
brb, heading to the breakroom to have my third diet coke of the day.
If you're drinking diet soda, you're not drinking water.
That's the only negative I can think of.
[QUOTE=Big_Spaz;621439413]I honestly do it man. And I don't even think twice about it. I drink it before the gym in the morning (while eating eggs), I drink it at work, when I get home, before bed. You name it.
The stuff is excellent. I mean don't get me wrong, I drink a TON of water as well. But Diet Mt. Dew is liquid gold.
-Spaz[/QUOTE]
Caffeine Free?
As others have said, for people with low self control... It makes your body want more sweets than if you hadn't drank the diet in the first place :D
I drink 1 a day tho when im choking down a nasty ass turkey sandwich or something of that nature, lol.
[QUOTE=Big_Spaz;621439413]I honestly do it man. And I don't even think twice about it. I drink it before the gym in the morning (while eating eggs), I drink it at work, when I get home, before bed. You name it.
The stuff is excellent. I mean don't get me wrong, I drink a TON of water as well. But Diet Mt. Dew is liquid gold.
-Spaz[/QUOTE]
Talk about pissing pure dew... Lol.
I had an IT buddy who drank about 3 or so "3" liters of Dew, NON diet, haha... he was about 6'10" and 450lbs or so tho..