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My Dad has been doing splits for a while and I told him that fb workouts are better. He is 40 years old and has been lifting for about 3 years. He is pretty strong and big.
He is 6 feet, 185lb, and 15% bf.
Would a fullbody workout be good for him?
And what fb workout would you recommend for him?
Why would you think that full body workouts are any better than a split routine?????
A lot of people have been saying fullbodys are better
[url]http://www.menshealth.com/fitness/muscle-building-4[/url]
Dude...Mens Health is for *******s. Its a garbage magazine.
Some perfer full body...some perfer split. I've done both. My numbers always go down with a full work out. So I do splits only now.
Alot of people use a fullbody workout when they start out, then move on to a split routine. If he has been lifting for three years, is doing a split, and is happy with his results, then there is not need to change to a fullbody.
[QUOTE=GreenWave1;658648893]Alot of people use a fullbody workout when they start out, then move on to a split routine. If he has been lifting for three years, is doing a split, and is happy with his results, then there is not need to change to a fullbody.[/QUOTE]
^^^^This.
The volume and frequency of a good FB program will usually suit noobs best. When those noob gains begin to dry up, most often moving to a split, where the volume/frequency changes ratios, will provide furthur progress.
[QUOTE=ironwill2008;658670993]^^^^This.
The volume and frequency of a good FB program will usually suit noobs best. When those noob gains begin to dry up, most often moving to a split, where the volume/frequency changes ratios, will provide furthur progress.[/QUOTE]
Ironwill, that is interesting. Wife and I were doing FB for the last 6 months or so (for her, longer for me) and I found a program on bb.com which basically is FB plus 2 isolation sets per workout. I was looking at maybe doing that for awhile then looking at splits after we progress some more.
[QUOTE=tnthudson;658866013]Ironwill, that is interesting. Wife and I were doing FB for the last 6 months or so (for her, longer for me) and I found a program on bb.com which basically is FB plus 2 isolation sets per workout. I was looking at maybe doing that for awhile then looking at splits after we progress some more.[/QUOTE]
That would be a logical way to proceed. Making small adjustments to your routine in order to continue to progress is usually a better way to go than to just junk the entire thing and move to something different.
[QUOTE=ironwill2008;658882653]That would be a logical way to proceed. Making small adjustments to your routine in order to continue to progress is usually a better way to go than to just junk the entire thing and move to something different.[/QUOTE]
Awesome, sounds good. Thanks for the advice!
split is king,
but a full body works for me if traveling with only one day or two for a work-out, Just to maintain thats all.
I've had great success with upper/lower splits without isolation work.
[QUOTE=Th3KaNgSt3R;658639153]My Dad has been doing splits for a while and I told him that fb workouts are better. He is 40 years old and has been lifting for about 3 years. He is pretty strong and big.
He is 6 feet, 185lb, and 15% bf.
Would a fullbody workout be good for him?
And what fb workout would you recommend for him?[/QUOTE]
I would recommend that you let the 40 year old man who has been lifting for 3 years lift any routine he wants to use. He has a head on his shoulders and i'm pretty sure he knows how to use it if he hasen't crippled himself this far in.
[QUOTE=Th3KaNgSt3R;658639153]My Dad has been doing splits for a while and I told him that fb workouts are better. He is 40 years old and has been lifting for about 3 years. He is pretty strong and big.
He is 6 feet, 185lb, and 15% bf.
Would a fullbody workout be good for him?
And what fb workout would you recommend for him?[/QUOTE]
Gray area. Depends on what "better" means. More fat loss? More size? More strength? More cardio accent? Ad infinitum...
FB has its place, but it depends on what the goals are.
I prefer splits, but I've been at this thing since Ronald was in office. In my experience and many others, FB workouts inevitably wind up "cheating" certain muscle groups because of volume/time/intensity/energy level issues; if one has reached a certain point of development, it's virtually impossible to do every muscle group proper justice in a single workout. If the old man has been at this for a bit, maybe what he is doing is working just fine.
If one MUST do FB, I'd suggest:
Some type of row, pulldown, or chin
Some type of chest press
Some type of deadlift, clean, or good morning
some type of overhead press or lateral (depending on what other movement choices were)
some type of squat or leg press
some type of ab movement
let the bis, tris, calves, and forearms come along for the ride- if one is at level where they need direct work on said groups, they should be splitting anyway
[QUOTE=Hogan1956;659373913]I would recommend that you let the 40 year old man who has been lifting for 3 years lift any routine he wants to use. He has a head on his shoulders and i'm pretty sure he knows how to use it if he hasen't crippled himself this far in.[/QUOTE]
I agree with this. I do three to four FB workouts each week and prefer them to split routines. Some days I focus more on certain body parts though. You have to enjoy what you are doing.
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I find that I need more time to recover than a full body workout allows. As a matter of preference, I also enjoy lifting more than 3 days per week. I usually hit each body part once per week. Currently, however, I'm doing back two times per week. My second back session is a lighter workout (4 sets of 12 for each excerise). I'm doing that to help improve my back. I've always had week lats. Even as a kid I was never able to do pull ups. Chins, on the other hand, were never a problem....
Seems like he is doing just fine.