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We need to start one of these anyway and get out of that other thread. So here's who all is playing. Stat categories is the next thing to decide.
A-League:
bbacn123
KingCanuck
Jyeatbvg
saaltydog
Chill Will 33
NYY
jkeithc82
Jigsaw
Exist 2 Inspire
Max~Power
Nodice123
89FoxBody
TexasHeat
Pro_Shark
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Lets get this going!!
So maybe we should decide this stat by stat.
[b]Does everyone agree with OPS?[/b]
Why hasn't anyone made a jkeith up in this mother****er thread pic?
[QUOTE=Exist 2 Inspire;440254461]So maybe we should decide this stat by stat.
[b]Does everyone agree with OPS?[/b][/QUOTE]
Although tedious, likely the best way to do this.
Yes I agree to OPS
[QUOTE=bbacn123;440273251]Although tedious, likely the best way to do this.
Yes I agree to OPS[/QUOTE]
We could just post all the stats in question at once and have each member vote yes or no to each one, might be easier.
[QUOTE=Exist 2 Inspire;440275271]We could just post all the stats in question at once and have each member vote yes or no to each one, might be easier.[/QUOTE]
true. How about when registration opens up I can just copy and paste all the categories and everyone can pick what they think we should use and we can go from there.
[QUOTE=Exist 2 Inspire;440254461]So maybe we should decide this stat by stat.
[b]Does everyone agree with OPS?[/b][/QUOTE]
yes its a must in my opinion
I am okay with OPS!
Help me, i don't get it.. does yahoo have a built in keeper settings?
if it doesn't i suggesting using a mainstream site that does (ESPN, FOX, CBS)
just a thought
(I want the keeper setting, no one this, if everyone shows up next year bull****)
I don't think Yahoo has Keeper settings but we can just keep the players we want and the commissioner adds them in next season. I've done it for hockey and it works fine (as long as the commissioner knows what he's doing). If someone leaves, we get a new manager with the old manager's team.
I say we stick with yahoo. Everyone here is familiar with it anyways.
[QUOTE=Jyeatbvg;440352031]I don't think Yahoo has Keeper settings [B]but we can just keep the players we want and the commissioner adds them in next season[/B]. I've done it for hockey and it works fine (as long as the commissioner knows what he's doing). If someone leaves, we get a new manager with the old manager's team.
I say we stick with yahoo. Everyone here is familiar with it anyways.[/QUOTE]
I have no problem with this, as long as the manager sets our keepers before the draft, im fine with it
Had a thought, but don't know how we'd work the "keeper" angle. Should we make it possible that the team that finishes last gets dropped from the A league and the winner of the B league gets his spot?
[QUOTE=Exist 2 Inspire;440254461]So maybe we should decide this stat by stat.
[b]Does everyone agree with OPS?[/b][/QUOTE]
Yeah, OPS is fine by me.
Also,
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[QUOTE=jkeithc82;440366991]Had a thought, but don't know how we'd work the "keeper" angle. Should we make it possible that the team that finishes last gets dropped from the A league and the winner of the B league gets his spot?[/QUOTE]
It can only work if the winner of B-league took over the last place team and made his keepers from that selection of players. He wouldnt be able to have keepers off his B-league championship team because he'd have some of the same players as the rest of us.
Im kinda against that because it complicates the hell out of things, but if everyone wants to do it I wont say no.
[QUOTE=bbacn123;440429691]It can only work if the winner of B-league took over the last place team and made his keepers from that selection of players. He wouldnt be able to have keepers off his B-league championship team because he'd have some of the same players as the rest of us.
Im kinda against that because it complicates the hell out of things, but if everyone wants to do it I wont say no.[/QUOTE]
i'm with you on that one
[QUOTE=jkeithc82;440366991]Had a thought, but don't know how we'd work the "keeper" angle. Should we make it possible that the team that finishes last gets dropped from the A league and the winner of the B league gets his spot?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=bbacn123;440429691]It can only work if the winner of B-league took over the last place team and made his keepers from that selection of players. He wouldnt be able to have keepers off his B-league championship team because he'd have some of the same players as the rest of us.
Im kinda against that because it complicates the hell out of things, but if everyone wants to do it I wont say no.[/QUOTE]
If someone becomes inactive and wants out, we can look to the A-League for active players. Almost like a Triple a team.
But dropping players doesn't sound good. Unless inactive
[QUOTE=Max~Power;440525361]If someone becomes inactive and wants out, we can look to the A-League for active players. Almost like a Triple a team.
But dropping players doesn't sound good. Unless inactive[/QUOTE]
or along that line, if someone drops out from our league, we ask the winner of league b to join.
Has anyone here actually ran or been in a Keeper Fantasy League? Been reading some stuff about how the leagues are ran, settings and a few things and it looks like it could get confusing very very easily.
I'll post some ideas that I find here if noone is familiar. I am not, I have never been involved in a keeper league, just 1 year leagues, but I am willing to keep reading and doing research on what could be the best ways to run it are.
Reading alot of people breaking the draft into teirs such as
Rounds
1-4 (no players keeped)
5-9 (1 player)
10-14 (1 player)
15-19 (1 player)
20-24 (1 player)
24-28 (1 player)
Most of what I have read is they keep no players drafted in rounds 1-4 to keep the superstars available each year and then have the option to keep 1 player for a Maximum of 3 years in each of the rest of the round brackets.
I do not agree with the no player kept in the first 4 rounds... I think we should be able to keep one player in that bracket as well and then in the subsequent draft do like..
Any player you keep in bracket 1-4, you must draft him in the first round, essentially giving up your first round pick for him. And then, each other bracket, each player must be drafted at 5th, 10th, 15th, 20th, and 24th... so if you keep a guy at you drafted in round 9, you must draft him in round 5 the next year. Sorry if this doesnt make much sense, I am just doing ideas and I am admittedly bored at the moment lol.
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The other ideas I have read (where no picks in round 1-4 were kept) they have a rule that, if you keep a player, you lose a draft pick 4 rounds ahead of where he was picked. So, if you keep ur 5th round, you lose your first round pick (you take him in the first round) and each year you keep him, its another 4 rounds, so players in rounds 5-8 can only be kept 1 extra year... 9-12, 2 extra years... (first year you keep him, you give up round 5 pick, 2nd year, 1st round pick.. for a player drafted #9) 13-16 could have up to 3 years of control, 17-20, 4 years, 21-24 5 years, 25-28, 6 years of control.
So, what this does, is it puts a premium of finding diamonds in the rough at the end of the draft.
Let me know what yall think if any of you can make any sense of this jumbled mess I have jut created...
Or....
at the end of the year each manager gets to choose a number (say 5) players to keep, no matter what position. Most fair way in my opinion. Doing it by rounds is stupid, the players in the first few rounds will be making up the basis of your roster and it would suck to lose them each year.
Keeping a set number of players makes it like the real thing. Keep the best players, base the rest of your team off of those players.
[QUOTE=Jyeatbvg;440683171]Or....
at the end of the year each manager gets to choose a number (say 5) players to keep, no matter what position. Most fair way in my opinion. Doing it by rounds is stupid, the players in the first few rounds will be making up the basis of your roster and it would suck to lose them each year.
Keeping a set number of players makes it like the real thing. Keep the best players, base the rest of your team off of those players.[/QUOTE]
Well, if we do it this way, that essentially locks up the top 70 fantasy players each year. The problem with this scenario, is that the people with bad teams could lose interest, knowing that they are stuck with their picks and will never have a shot at anymore elite players to fix their team the next season and it could also make the league stale out a bit if their isnt very much turnover in the league year to year involving the elite players.
I can see it both ways, but we have a long time to figure all this out, because this really won't be relevent until next year.
[QUOTE=TexasHeat;440689971]Well, if we do it this way, that essentially locks up the top 70 fantasy players each year. The problem with this scenario, is that the people with bad teams could lose interest, knowing that they are stuck with their picks and will never have a shot at anymore elite players to fix their team the next season and it could also make the league stale out a bit if their isnt very much turnover in the league year to year involving the elite players.
I can see it both ways, but we have a long time to figure all this out, because this really won't be relevent until next year.[/QUOTE]
Well that's the situation if the player rankings never change. You're going to have busts and breakout years which will affect the draft next year. Picking a guy in the first round doesn't mean you're keeping him for next year. Sure guys like A-rod and Pujols will be locked up, but most other things will change.
Look at Aaron Hill, he probably went undrafted this season, but you can bet he'll be drafted in most leagues this year. To contrast, look at Vlad Guerrero. He was ranked pretty high this year but next year he'll be nowhere near the top.
The point is that most of the time, your group of keepers will likely change from year to year.
I say, 1 player in rounds 1-5. 2 players in rounds 6-10. Any 2 players thereafter.
[QUOTE=Jyeatbvg;440683171]Or....
at the end of the year each manager gets to choose a number (say 5) players to keep, no matter what position. Most fair way in my opinion. Doing it by rounds is stupid, the players in the first few rounds will be making up the basis of your roster and it would suck to lose them each year.
Keeping a set number of players makes it like the real thing. Keep the best players, base the rest of your team off of those players.[/QUOTE]
I was in a keeper fantasy basketball league last year and this is pretty much how we did it. At the end of the season we just chose the 2 players we wanted to keep regardless of where we drafted them.
I don't know about the whole rounds thing. I think we should be able to keep any player we want no matter where they were drafted, and then just give up that draft spot in next year's draft. The whole point of a keepers league is that the best players WON'T be available to draft, so you have to build your team through prospects and trades with other people.
[QUOTE=Pro_Shark;440739691]I don't know about the whole rounds thing. I think we should be able to keep any player we want no matter where they were drafted, [b]and then just give up that draft spot in next year's draft.[/b] The whole point of a keepers league is that the best players WON'T be available to draft, so you have to build your team through prospects and trades with other people.[/QUOTE]
That would be insanely hard to keep track of and almost impossible to execute without mistakes.
[QUOTE=Exist 2 Inspire;440735901]I was in a keeper fantasy basketball league last year and this is pretty much how we did it. At the end of the season we just chose the 2 players we wanted to keep regardless of where we drafted them.[/QUOTE]
Same here for the keeper football league I'm in. This seems to work best just my $.02.
[QUOTE=SpeedDemon9;440759551]Same here for the keeper football league I'm in. This seems to work best just my $.02.[/QUOTE]
I'm down for that too.
How many are we planning on keeping? The more the merrier for me, but I would throw out 5-8 keepers as a possible number.
[QUOTE=Pro_Shark;440762751]I'm down for that too.
How many are we planning on keeping? The more the merrier for me, but I would throw out 5-8 keepers as a possible number.[/QUOTE]
5 is a good number. It keeps drafts interesting but also keeps the basis of our teams fairly consistent.
4 or 5 IMO
4-5 is good with me too...even the worst team will have at least 4 players he'll want to keep.
I agree with 5 keepers.
I think drafting is one of the things that draws me back to fantasty sports. Knowing I can rebuild. I like what bbacon said or something like:
Rounds 1-3 (1 Keeper)
Rounds 4-7 (1 Keeper)
Rounds 9-End (3 Keepers)
Thats only 5 keepers per team and only 70 keepers in all. (Lets not forget that pitches can be keepers also)
That way the draft is still VERY IMPORTANT come next year, and then we can bump the keeprs up again.
[QUOTE=Max~Power;440984341]I think drafting is one of the things that draws me back to fantasty sports. Knowing I can rebuild. I like what bbacon said or something like:
Rounds 1-3 (1 Keeper)
Rounds 4-7 (1 Keeper)
Rounds 9-End (3 Keepers)
Thats only 5 keepers per team and only 70 keepers in all. (Lets not forget that pitches can be keepers also)
That way the draft is still VERY IMPORTANT come next year, and then we can bump the keeprs up again.[/QUOTE]
If everyone doesn't like the rounds (as I have read)
What if we did just 5 keepers like this:
You must keep:
2 Pitchers
2 Batters
and your 5th keeper can be either.
(this way out of the 70 players not in the draft, we can have it evenly spread between pitchers and batters)
[QUOTE=Max~Power;440984341]I think drafting is one of the things that draws me back to fantasty sports. Knowing I can rebuild. I like what bbacon said or something like:
Rounds 1-3 (1 Keeper)
Rounds 4-7 (1 Keeper)
Rounds 9-End (3 Keepers)
Thats only 5 keepers per team and only 70 keepers in all. (Lets not forget that pitches can be keepers also)
That way the draft is still VERY IMPORTANT come next year, and then we can bump the keeprs up again.[/QUOTE]
I don't understand the point of a keeper league if there are so many restrictions. Why not just play 1 year leagues with the same managers? That's why prospects and young players are so important.
[QUOTE=Jyeatbvg;440996671]I don't understand the point of a keeper league if there are so many restrictions. Why not just play 1 year leagues with the same managers? That's why prospects and young players are so important.[/QUOTE]
No one in this league wants to draft prospect for some reason... If were up to me, we would draft 5 prospect per team on the forum (because they arent on Yahoo to be drafted until they have seen Major League Time)
Losing out on a player like Jason Heyward, Mike Staton, Jesus Montero, Stephen Strasburg, or Martin Perez is stupid if somoe up at 5:30 am picks them up as soon as Yahoo adds them... Just my .02 cents.
[QUOTE=Max~Power;440985221]If everyone doesn't like the rounds (as I have read)
What if we did just 5 keepers like this:
You must keep:
2 Pitchers
2 Batters
and your 5th keeper can be either.
(this way out of the 70 players not in the draft, we can have it evenly spread between pitchers and batters)[/QUOTE]
This is a good idea, splitting them up.
[QUOTE=TexasHeat;441003951]
Losing out on a player like Jason Heyward, Mike Staton, Jesus Montero, Stephen Strasburg, or Martin Perez is stupid if somoe up at 5:30 am picks them up as soon as Yahoo adds them... Just my .02 cents.[/QUOTE]
But that's part of why we have a waiver wire and teams have a waiver priority.
I understand some don't follow or keep up with Minor League players but google is a powerful tool.
[url]http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2010/01/25/the-top-100-prospects-of-2010-1-25/[/url]
and we would only be drafting 70 per year.
[QUOTE=jkeithc82;441005081]But that's part of why we have a waiver wire and teams have a waiver priority.[/QUOTE]
Kinda agree but still don't like it. I am good etheir way just to let everyone know.
[QUOTE=jkeithc82;441005081]But that's part of why we have a waiver wire and teams have a waiver priority.[/QUOTE]
Wait, isnt the waiver process only good on players dropped as opposed to players added?
[QUOTE=TexasHeat;441005541]Kinda agree but still don't like it. I am good etheir way just to let everyone know.[/QUOTE]
I think the more complicated we make this, the more likely teams will give up or drop out. It's fantasy baseball. We're not real GM's here lol. :D
[QUOTE=jkeithc82;441006281]I think the more complicated we make this, the more likely teams will give up or drop out. It's fantasy baseball.[B] We're not real GM's here[/B] lol. :D[/QUOTE]
Speak for yourself, mod
[QUOTE=TexasHeat;441003951]No one in this league wants to draft prospect for some reason... If were up to me, we would draft 5 prospect per team on the forum (because they arent on Yahoo to be drafted until they have seen Major League Time)
Losing out on a player like Jason Heyward, Mike Staton, Jesus Montero, Stephen Strasburg, or Martin Perez is stupid if somoe up at 5:30 am picks them up as soon as Yahoo adds them... Just my .02 cents.[/QUOTE]
or we don't do prospects and this will still work. There are so many players in the MLB that there are always young up and coming players to keep the league dynamic.