Pre-workout Heartattack at only 24 years old, my gym buddy is down for the count

so heres the deal, last thursday me and my friend josh were doing our regular workout, we both take pre workout supps, his which includes RagNoRok, creatine, and a vasodialator or something. i take prejym. well anyways, we started working out on the bench and everything was fine, we completed a few sets and felt pretty good about it. about 30 minutes in i noticed my friend sweating a lot and starting to become unresponsive, as i walked to him he fell off his seat and was no longet alert. we called the medics and had him shipped to the hospital. he stayed in the ICU until saturday and they preformed several tests. the doctors finally came sunday and told us he had a full blown heart attack caused from stimulants. they said the overconsumption of the stims put to much strain on his heart and most likely caused his heart to beat irregularly for sometime. i was and still am in shock. he is only 24 and now the doctors are saying he will be out of the game permanently. sucks Misc. we have been through the **** overseas and stateside, now he gets derailed by preworkouts rather than all the other stuff. makes you really think what is in all the stuff we take and how well it is tested. but then again maybe he was overusing it.

Cliffs:
24 Y.O Friend and i go to workout out.
Friend does a few sets and seems OK
Friend loses alertness and falls off seat.
friend become unresponsive and OP calls medic
Friend goes to the ICU for 3 days
Doctors tell OP and friend that Friend had full blown heartattck and cant lift anymore
Friend is depressed and OP feels bad
OP now wondering about stims and how well they are researched

Shiit like this always happens to the morons who over do it. Probably took a ridiculous amount of scoops.

this third scoops for him

How much and how often was he taking them?

while reading my only thought was

"damn.. can't wait to preworkout tomorrow morning before arms.. but maybe this time only 1.5 scoops not 2"

If hes going to pursue legal action you should probably stop posting in this thread. This could be called into a court of law.

brb 4 scoops of craze crew

pre workouts are death in a bottle. lol if you think that **** is regulated.

black coffee is all u need

and this is coming from someone who used to put pure caffeine powder into his no-xplode.

should have stuck with good ol hyphy mud

where can i purchase this preworkout

Most likely more to blame than just the pre w/o.. its easy for doctors to blame a product that is not FDA.

Sprinkle extra beta alanine in my old jacked for 'extra tingles' crew

[QUOTE=GarageLifting;1276410221]How much and how often was he taking them?[/QUOTE]

he took them 6 times a week, and usually 1.5-2 scoops.

when i first started i was stacking redbull and c4 together because i was dumb. i hope this wasnt what he had been doing. he also didnt cycle it at all.

Drink a coffee with breakfast then smash a preworkout crew

Would rather take the good stuff than that chitty pwo crew.

[QUOTE=GravityLee;1276410581]while reading my only thought was

"damn.. can't wait to preworkout tomorrow morning before arms.. but maybe this time only 1.5 scoops not 2"

If hes going to pursue legal action you should probably stop posting in this thread. This could be called into a court of law.[/QUOTE]

he isnt going to, he admitted his own fault, and he takes so many different ones there is no way he could pin point it. also in finland you have no real case in something like this, especially if there is a warning label and the stuff isnt allowed in the country.

About to be done with pre-workouts honestly. Been having a bad gut feeling about them lol

craze didn't kill me so no pre-workout will crew

Preworkouts don't provide enough fun to be causing heart attacks

Sorry to hear about that

Ok in that case serious question

Does he do cardio and how often

I do cardio almost every day and what I have noticed is it takes more speed / resistance to get my heart rate up than before I started doing cardio.

Makes me think it could help prevent this sort of thing.

[QUOTE=DiddlemeDrogba;1276413391]Preworkouts don't provide enough fun to be causing heart attacks

Sorry to hear about that[/QUOTE]

Yeah and cigarettes are healthy for you and your baby

lol@chickenheads who take PWO.

[QUOTE=Lowpala;1276411571]Most likely more to blame than just the pre w/o.. its easy for doctors to blame a product that is not FDA.[/QUOTE]

true, i cant really vouch for him in the sense of not taking any drugs. we both saw and went through some crazy shiat over seas together.

damn sorry to hear opie. Also could be underlying congenital issues too. that chit is unlucky.

Drank too much water and ruined heart rhythm crew.

[QUOTE=GravityLee;1276413491]Ok in that case serious question

Does he do cardio and how often

I do cardio almost every day and what I have noticed is it takes more speed / resistance to get my heart rate up than before I started doing cardio.

Makes me think it could help prevent this sort of thing.



Yeah and cigarettes are healthy for you and your baby[/QUOTE]

he is on dat der perma bulk, so rarely cardio, unless he's chasing that ice cream truck

Congenital heart defect, would bet on it. No healthy 24 year old is gonna have an MI from only a preworkout. Unless he had half the fukking container, mixed with other potent, high-dose stims, there was something else going on there.

[QUOTE=GoatNapper;1276413061]he isnt going to, he admitted his own fault, and he takes so many different ones there is no way he could pin point it. also in finland you have no real case in something like this, especially if there is a warning label and the stuff isnt allowed in the country.[/QUOTE]


This, one of the most infuriating things about living in Europe, it seems like every supplement is illegal, at least in Europe, theres a Phucking black market for Sups, seriously some creatines in Germany are as taboo as things we can't say.

WHat was he taking? i've done up too 5 scoops of pre-works before they removed 123 dem or whatever it's called again

ergoblast coming in tmrw :(

[QUOTE=Techriding101;1276410801]brb 4 scoops of craze crew[/QUOTE]

Not the smartest idea but I did that before just to see what would happen. Didn't feel much of a difference with that vs 2.5-3 scoops.

Using preworkouts isnt dangerous on places with high temperature?
aka the beach?

I've heard that taking caffeine and being on hot places can cause heart attacks or related issues. Thats why you dont take EC stack in some places.

Stay safe brahs and do your research.

I think it has something to do with body temperature going through the roof so you colapse.