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[url]http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=4708463&page=4[/url]
[url]http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=531019583#post531019583[/url]
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In all seriousness everybody most posters here have accomplished more that I have and I don't really care. I also fully believe that 98.9% of claims made by supplement companies are false and most of the models/spokespeople juice.
Competing in natural competitions and [B][I]publicly[/I][/B] seeking advice on how to cheat the tests is unforgivable.
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[QUOTE=badguy189;531030773]man i just woke up and this is the first thread i read..
im dissapointed but he did this years ago, who cares if i did a cycle right now and then 10 years of natural training i would claim natty
i still look up to the guy, all he did was take a quicker route to a physique that can be attained naturally. I wouldve too, he hang around pornstars and models. he has to look his best.[/QUOTE]
He doesnt have to knowingly enter natty competitions when he isnt natural and has taken cellular technology
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1) People are overreacting
2) He still lives a life better than over half of us
3) He shouldn't have lied
4) That is all.
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[QUOTE=Wcustom;531032193]1) People are overreacting
[B]2) He still lives a life better than over half of us[/B]
3) He shouldn't have lied
4) That is all.[/QUOTE]
the fuk is this? What is your basis for the claims that an anonymous internet person who lies is better than anyone else's on the misc?
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[QUOTE=xdestron;531034403]the fuk is this? What is your basis for the claims that an anonymous internet person who lies is better than anyone else's on the misc?[/QUOTE]
You don't know him other than this thread do you? Sure he has lied about doing roids but he has picture proof of his occupation and how good he is at it. His friends are ufc stars, his photoshoots involve girls like Jesse Jane...
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competing in natural competitions and [b][i]publicly[/i][/b] seeking advice on how to cheat the tests is unforgivable.[/quote]
this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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[QUOTE=badguy189;531030773]man i just woke up and this is the first thread i read..
im dissapointed but he did this years ago, who cares if i did a cycle right now and then 10 years of natural training i would claim natty
i still look up to the guy, all he did was take a quicker route to a physique that can be attained naturally. I wouldve too, he hang around pornstars and models. he has to look his best.[/QUOTE]
read thread again brah. he was just a few weeks natty before entering the comp. he was trying to get stuff to clear his system of roids before the drug testing and comp.
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30 minutes late to the gym due to epic call out. Damn you misc. brb, lifting natty.
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damn, surprised this hasnt been found out sooner. either way in on legendary thread. viper.. soniamdissapoint.
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Good find OP. His name has lost all credibility here.
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[QUOTE=Wcustom;531035373]You don't know him other than this thread do you? Sure he has lied about doing roids but he has picture proof of his occupation and how good he is at it. His friends are ufc stars, his photoshoots involve girls like Jesse Jane...[/QUOTE]
anyone who lies online is not having a good life lol, why even bother. The guy is a superfailure
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The worst kind of people are hypocrites.
Son I am dissappoint.
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[QUOTE=Dipman00;531029903]People in this thread are seriously over estimating anavar. Its used to keep your muscle whilst you cut and maybe gain a couple of lbs in the process. Weakest steroid out there you dont take it to get big
I know most are talking about the principle of him saying hes natty but theres other which are saying he has an awful physique for juicing when thats just not true[/QUOTE]
ROFL. people in this thread aren't really caring about the juice as much. He's entered/entering a NATTY competition that's tested while taking supplements that would eliminate him. Read the thread redtard
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This site is so lame. The fact that people actually care about what Vipergq does or zyzz does in real life is so pathetic. It makes me laugh that people are upset that Vipergq used. You will never meet this guy. Why do you have feelings for him?
People come on here claiming they are alpha this and alpha that and then they get upset about their internet idol using roids or some shiit. Get a fukcing life. Why the fukc are you even looking up to people on here? There should be people in your real lives that you can look up to for inspiration not some dude on an internet message board. /rant
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Lol only on page 10... Will finish later
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i dont blame him.. he posts pics and his work all over this site where some ***got snitch can prolly find him of course hes not gonna say hes breaking the law on a public forum with that info... cmon cuzz
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[QUOTE=OrdoAbchao;531042543]This site is so lame. The fact that people actually care about what Vipergq does or zyzz does in real life is so pathetic. It makes me laugh that people are upset that Vipergq used. You will never meet this guy. Why do you have feelings for him?
People come on here claiming they are alpha this and alpha that and then they get upset about their internet idol using roids or some shiit. Get a fukcing life. Why the fukc are you even looking up to people on here? There should be people in your real lives that you can look up to for inspiration not some dude on an internet message board. /rant[/QUOTE]
Look around, there aren't many people in great shape in the general public. People use the internet to find inspiration. Vipergq was that to a lot of people (outside of just the misc). It's kinda BS b/c he was giving false hope to people. I don't care who you are...thats a BS move.
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What's the point of lying about it? I'm confused.
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[QUOTE=2.0Tsunami;531044333]Look around, there aren't many people in great shape in the general public. People use the internet to find inspiration. Vipergq was that to a lot of people (outside of just the misc). It's kinda BS b/c he was giving false hope to people. I don't care who you are...thats a BS move.[/QUOTE]
Go to ANY decent gym and you will find plenty of people that look similar or better than ViperGQ....
"alpha" males using the MISC to find inspiration is a complete joke
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[QUOTE=OrdoAbchao;531042543]This site is so lame. The fact that people actually care about what Vipergq does or zyzz does in real life is so pathetic. It makes me laugh that people are upset that Vipergq used. You will never meet this guy. Why do you have feelings for him?
People come on here claiming they are alpha this and alpha that and then they get upset about their internet idol using roids or some shiit. Get a fukcing life. Why the fukc are you even looking up to people on here? There should be people in your real lives that you can look up to for inspiration not some dude on an internet message board. /rant[/QUOTE]
i'm going to take a stab in the dark here and say that you didn't read the thread.
brah, you've been here since 2004. read before you post.
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[QUOTE=OrdoAbchao;531042543]This site is so lame. The fact that people actually care about what Vipergq does or zyzz does in real life is so pathetic. It makes me laugh that people are upset that Vipergq used. You will never meet this guy. Why do you have feelings for him?
People come on here claiming they are alpha this and alpha that and then they get upset about their internet idol using roids or some shiit. Get a fukcing life. Why the fukc are you even looking up to people on here? There should be people in your real lives that you can look up to for inspiration not some dude on an internet message board. /rant[/QUOTE]
Do you have any sense of morality?
You still have to believe that this is wrong regardless if it's on some internet message board or not.
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Hes not coming back to this thread.
Sponsorships > Misc reputation
Whatever though, I envy the guys lifestyle. He lives like a rockstar, ceos 10k a day and bangs a lesbo pornstar. The fact that he juices doesnt bother me one bit.
Entering natty comps as a juicer is pretty shady though but ultimately its on his conscience and he has to live with it. Surprised Layne hasnt made a post in this thread.
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[QUOTE=matty_b_bop;531045763]i'm going to take a stab in the dark here and say that you didn't read the thread.
brah, you've been here since 2004. read before you post.[/QUOTE]
did not read
seriously, the first few posts were people whining and I have seen PLENTY of Zyzz threads in my time to know that there are many *******s on this board who have no life besides the internet.
[QUOTE=sunspyre;531046273]Do you have any sense of morality?
You still have to believe that this is wrong regardless if it's on some internet message board or not.[/QUOTE]
Who cares if it is wrong. It is basically common knowledge to know that you shouldn't believe everything you see on the internet. ESPECIALLY on the misc.
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[QUOTE=vipergq;530943113]Since I was 16. (which was 1996)[/QUOTE]
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Didn't read the entire thread, but did anybody else catch this?
He was 16 in 1996, which means he was probably born in 1980... just like the "fake" vipergq...
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[QUOTE=OrdoAbchao;531045123]Go to ANY decent gym and you will find plenty of people that look similar or better than ViperGQ....
"alpha" males using the MISC to find inspiration is a complete joke[/QUOTE]
Not really...might be because you live in a bigger city.
You're being too myopic. He was 'inspiration' for people outside of the misc. Check his thread in the 'fat loss' section.
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[QUOTE=OrdoAbchao;531047583]did not read
seriously, the first few posts were people whining and I have seen PLENTY of Zyzz threads in my time to know that there are many *******s on this board who have no life besides the internet.[/QUOTE]
ummm, you should probably read then.
first off, why are you even mentioning anything about zyzz? he has nothing to do with the thread.
secondly, VPQ is entering natural competitions attempting to take away trophies, money, recognition, pride and dignity from actual natural lifters. he stated on another forum that he was entering a natural competition that tests and asked how he could be free of illegal substances before the comp.
not only that, but giving aspiring members on here false hope by claiming he is natural and all it takes is hard work, yada, yada. and when he would get accused for doing steroids, he would then rant about how lame they are and call anyone a cheater/pussy for using them. so, a straight-up hypocrite, liar and a cheater.
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K look he's been caught which doesn't surprise me, other people like Matheo probably juice, YG does fo sho. But it's completely reasonable to lie, because of sponsors. What Viper did wrong though is tell people they can achieve the same things naturally. It's one thing to lie, but another to guide people in the wrong direction.
edit: and of course, enter a natty comp. But I reckon that's pretty common in the BBing world...especially since that forum was helpful towards him rather than hostile.