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[QUOTE=Trexmeyer;1014868273]No. The video was of a fat female cop in a situation no female servicemember in the US military would ever be in thus rendering it irrelevant.
There is no evidence that it is typical, only your preconceived notion of women being weak and inferior to men.[/QUOTE]
[size=+5] The video showed that, but It was an example of how a female would typically react when put in a hostile setting, just like the petty isolated example you use of that female Sgt.
"I did not shoot, not a round, nothing," she said. "When we were told to lock and load, that's when my weapon jammed … I did not shoot a single round … I went down praying to my knees. And that's the last I remember."
Jessica Lynch[/size]
Hopefully the enlarged text will give you a better understanding.
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I love it how all these WK *******s who have no combat experience keep saying "If they can pass the PT then I don't see any reason why not."
I have no combat experience so I can't really comment on this, but all the army brahs with [b]real[/b] combat experience say its a bad idea... However I can draw conclusions from being a tradesman, working a physical job as a heavy fabricator. One time on a building site we had to lift a 500kg, (not sure what that is in pounds) gusset up 3 flights of stairs and then 20 meters along flat ground. Between 6 of use we were able to do it, then we had to repeat it again for the other 5 gusset. It was extremely physically demanding. None of us were "lifters" but in our line of work you don't really need to go to the gym to get strong, aesthetics is a different thing of course.
My point? Women can not even match up to physical jobs in civilian life, I have seen this first hand so many times, so what makes people think they can match up to men in combat roles? This is not being [b]sexist[/b], this is being [b]real[/b]. Its all well and good for a woman to train to the level of being able to do "x" amount of pullups, pushups and situps, but anyone who knows anything about strength will tell you that this does not equate to real strength.
So WK *******s shut up and stop being beta armchair experts and using your COD experience to draw conclusions. Listen to the army brahs, they are the only ones who's comments are valid ITT.
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[QUOTE=KiwiBro2;1014870313]I love it how all these WK *******s who have no combat experience keep saying "If they can pass the PT then I don't see any reason why not."
I have no combat experience so I can't really comment on this, but all the army brahs with [b]real[/b] combat experience say its a bad idea... However I can draw conclusions from being a tradesman, working a physical job as a heavy fabricator. One time on a building site we had to lift a 500kg, (not sure what that is in pounds) gusset up 3 flights of stairs and then 20 meters along flat ground. Between 6 of use we were able to do it, then we had to repeat it again for the other 5 gusset. It was extremely physically demanding. None of us were "lifters" but in our line of work you don't really need to go to the gym to get strong, aesthetics is a different thing of course.
My point? Women can not even match up to physical jobs in civilian life, I have seen this first hand so many times, so what makes people think they can match up to men in combat roles? This is not being [b]sexist[/b], this is being [b]real[/b]. Its all well and good for a woman to train to the level of being able to do "x" amount of pullups, pushups and situps, but anyone who knows anything about strength will tell you that this does not equate to real strength.
So WK *******s shut up and stop being beta armchair experts and using your COD experience to draw conclusions. Listen to the army brahs, they are the only ones who's comments are valid ITT.[/QUOTE]
Exactly.
The wk fa beta **** above Thinks that a very small minority of women are not physically and mentally incapable. Has this guy ever left his house/worked?
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[QUOTE=KiwiBro2;1014870313]I love it how all these WK *******s who have no combat experience keep saying "If they can pass the PT then I don't see any reason why not."
I have no combat experience so I can't really comment on this, but all the army brahs with [b]real[/b] combat experience say its a bad idea... However I can draw conclusions from being a tradesman, working a physical job as a heavy fabricator. One time on a building site we had to lift a 500kg, (not sure what that is in pounds) gusset up 3 flights of stairs and then 20 meters along flat ground. Between 6 of use we were able to do it, then we had to repeat it again for the other 5 gusset. It was extremely physically demanding. None of us were "lifters" but in our line of work you don't really need to go to the gym to get strong, aesthetics is a different thing of course.
My point? Women can not even match up to physical jobs in civilian life, I have seen this first hand so many times, so what makes people think they can match up to men in combat roles? This is not being [b]sexist[/b], this is being [b]real[/b]. Its all well and good for a woman to train to the level of being able to do "x" amount of pullups, pushups and situps, but anyone who knows anything about strength will tell you that this does not equate to real strength.
So WK *******s shut up and stop being beta armchair experts and using your COD experience to draw conclusions. Listen to the army brahs, they are the only ones who's comments are valid ITT.[/QUOTE]
Only intelligent thing you said is that the PT test has no bearing on combat, which is very true.
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Attacks me for using one example to prove a generalization.
Does the same thing
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It's like talking to a brick wall. I'm finna get something to eat.
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[QUOTE=xY2Jx;1014871503]Attacks me for using one example to prove a generalization.
Does the same thing
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It's like talking to a brick wall. I'm finna get something to eat.[/QUOTE]
hahahahaha
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lol i had no problem serving under a female you beta *******, i actually had some good female officers but the majority i served under were emotional fckin wrecks. brb ignored part of physical standards of 20 pushups to my 89
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[QUOTE=xY2Jx;1014871503]Attacks me for using one example to prove a generalization.
Does the same thing
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It's like talking to a brick wall. I'm finna get something to eat.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=conceptions;1014860533]Yeah, because you're only a result of biology. That is just sad.[/QUOTE]
Primarily a result of biology yes.
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[QUOTE=ITzChurch;1014872633]lol i had no problem serving under a female you beta *******, i actually had some good female officers but the majority i served under were emotional fckin wrecks. brb ignored part of physical standards of 20 pushups to my 89[/QUOTE]
pushups totally matter brah
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[QUOTE=Trexmeyer;1014873183]pushups totally matter brah[/QUOTE]
i like how you say females should be allowed in combat zones but then ignore all the factors that go into PT test, etc. I understand bro you are biased because a chick can beat you in most physical aspects..got it.
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What about when they all get on the same menstrual cycle....goodnight sweet princesses
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[QUOTE=ITzChurch;1014874063]i like how you say females should be allowed in combat zones but then ignore all the factors that go into PT test, etc. I understand bro you are biased because a chick can beat you in most physical aspects..got it.[/QUOTE]
Probably hasn't had a convo with a female in his life
[QUOTE=wolfram22;1014874733]What about when they all get on the same menstrual cycle....goodnight sweet princesses[/QUOTE]
Or climidia (butchered spelling)
or vag infection
or yeast infection
or get pregnant (brb using as excuse to go home)
or urinary infection
I believe a male can go weeks without showering or anything on a mission, all he will get is a ferocious stench
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[QUOTE=wolfram22;1014874733]What about when they all get on the same menstrual cycle....goodnight sweet princesses[/QUOTE]
that's the plan...the perfect army..unstoppable. :p
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will they get drafted now too?
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[QUOTE=Trexmeyer;1014873183]pushups totally matter brah[/QUOTE]
push ups = indicator of strength.
seen as you feel that indicators of performance dont matter you never went to any of your school exams right?
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lol the other thing i find funny (for the Navy) was the same chick who was crying all the time and couldnt keep up with her paperwork is the same one who got caught fkn a married enlisted guy and got kicked out and had to pay back all her money from the academy. sloots always gonna sloot
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[QUOTE=Trexmeyer;1014771373]brb cocky mother****er thinks he's a hard ass for fighting an imperialistic war against goat herders with guns[/QUOTE]
Pretty sure we went in to **** up sadam hussein, last time i checked the iraqi army wernt goat herders at the time
Taliban? Terrorist group with ties to many countries, big jump from goat herders
Every one is always criticizing america,when we go in to help people and liberate them from their dictators, we got people like you talking **** about our troops, when we do very little, we get criticized again, like mali
Future US Sailor
Dam Proud to serve my imperialistic country so people like you can criticize us
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[QUOTE=ITzChurch;1014874063]i like how you say females should be allowed in combat zones but then ignore all the factors that go into PT test, etc. I understand bro you are biased because a chick can beat you in most physical aspects..got it.[/QUOTE]
Are you honestly so stupid that you think the PT test is relevant AT ALL to combat?
There is a reason the USMC instituted the Combat Fitness Test several years ago, because the PT test didn't provide worthwhile data.
No one gives a **** if some 5'3" 120lb ******* can do 40 ****ing pullups, max crunches (ofc everyone does) and run 3 miles in 12:00. He would fall the **** over with an existance load on his back and be next to useless in combat.
Meanwhile the 5'9" guy built like a tank that can only run 3 in 24:00 can carry a ****ing m240 all day without breaking a sweat and drag a casualty out of LoF with one arm while laying down cover fire.
so much unaware
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[QUOTE=Slywar;1014877103]Pretty sure we went in to **** up sadam hussein, last time i checked the iraqi army wernt goat herders at the time
Taliban? Terrorist group with ties to many countries, big jump from goat herders
Every one is always criticizing america,when we go in to help people and liberate them from their dictators, we got people like you talking **** about our troops, when we do very little, we get criticized again, like mali
Future US Sailor
Dam Proud to serve my imperialistic country so people like you can criticize us[/QUOTE]
Age: 17
bitch you probably have trouble serving the 7/10 with fat teddies her big mac without your incher creaming your pants
[QUOTE=ITzChurch;1014876853]lol the other thing i find funny (for the Navy) was the same chick who was crying all the time and couldnt keep up with her paperwork is the same one who got caught fkn a married enlisted guy and got kicked out and had to pay back all her money from the academy. sloots always gonna sloot[/QUOTE]
one example of ****bag doesn't mean every women is
[QUOTE=MrGreenz;1014876113]push ups = indicator of strength.
seen as you feel that indicators of performance dont matter you never went to any of your school exams right?[/QUOTE]
****ing terrible indicator of strength
[QUOTE=kefka101;1014876013]will they get drafted now too?[/QUOTE]
THE DRAFT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN EVER
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[QUOTE=Trexmeyer;1014871243]Only intelligent thing you said is that the PT test has no bearing on combat, which is very true.[/QUOTE]
Its still a ****ing standard in the military. They should have to meet the standard just like any guy. You can be a genius about combat but if you dont have the strength and stamina to march 20 miles with 70+lbs on your back you will be miserable, you will fail, and you will be a pimple on the ass of the squad/company that you are with. If they can meet the same physical standards as the men and pass the training. Go on ahead I wouldnt care. What us military guys are pissed about is the inevitable change to standards just to make it easier for them.
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[QUOTE=Beararms;1014878373]Its still a ****ing standard in the military. They should have to meet the standard just like any guy. You can be a genius about combat but if you dont have the strength and stamina to march 20 miles with 70+lbs on your back you will be miserable, you will fail, and you will be a pimple on the ass of the squad/company that you are with. If they can meet the same physical standards as the men and pass the training. Go on ahead I wouldnt care. What us military guys are pissed about is the inevitable change to standards just to make it easier for them.[/QUOTE]
Combat Fitness Test if you're a Marine.
**** is not complicated. When have you ever done a 20 mile CP?
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[QUOTE=Trexmeyer;1014879033]Combat Fitness Test if you're a Marine.
**** is not complicated. When have you ever done a 20 mile CP?[/QUOTE]
Thank whoever that I never had to do one down range but yes I've been on patrols. Let me tell you something in the 6 years that I've been in I've seen maybe 2 women out of dozens pass a patrol. 9 times outta 10 they get on a profile before the start or fall out at the 3 mile mark.
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Why are people acknowledging trexmeyer? That ******* is an obvious troll who spammed the misc with disgusting penis pics. He was banned a while back now he's trolling everyone here STOP ACKNOWLEDGING THAT TROLL. SRS
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As a Marine grunt this is how I feel and almost everyone thats in the "infantry" with me.
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I am disgusted and saddened that this would be allow. I truly think this act from congress is a threat to my lifestyle and WILL NOT be tolerated.
They can come down here as long as all women are allowed for draft, same physical fitness test, allow me to take them on runs in the mornings that make them throw up, and let me kick them in the chest if they almost shot someone on a live range.
If they can carry my 80lb+ ruck sack for 15 miles and motivate without being a burden to the rest of the unit.
I'll be okay with that.
But that will never happen!
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[QUOTE=Trexmeyer;1014878323]Age: 17
bitch you probably have trouble serving the 7/10 with fat teddies her big mac without your incher creaming your pants
one example of ****bag doesn't mean every women is
****ing terrible indicator of strength
THE DRAFT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN EVER[/QUOTE]
I dont smash whales bro, I may be 17 but probably more aware then you
You mad ?
O and as far as a draft never happening, i guess youve never heard of NSPD 51
If its ever put into action you can bet your ass your going to the military or a concentration camp
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[QUOTE=Slywar;1014882523]I dont smash whales bro, I may be 17 but probably more aware then you
You mad ?
O and as far as a draft never happening, i guess youve never heard of NSPD 51
If its ever put into action you can bet your ass your going to the military or a concentration camp[/QUOTE]
typical teenage conspiracy theorist
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[QUOTE=Trexmeyer;1014883183]typical teenage conspiracy theorist[/QUOTE]
What?
One its not a conspiracy, it was signed by GW Bush, and if i was a conspiracy theorist why would I be joining the navy?
Thats kinda like... the goverment man...
Edit: And its called a contingency plan, you know, if something catastrophic happens our nation will survive, so probably the farthest thing from a "conspiracy"