New at this, so bare with me on fat loss while buiding muscle

I am 5'11" tall, 45 years old.....started @ 204ish 2 1/2 months ago (Nov 15ish/2012), now 191....I'm sure i am not eating properly to lose my gut while building muscle, i have been experimenting but don't really know what i am doing. I have been following "The body sculpting bible for men" as far as the workout part goes, i eat way way better than i ever have, i workout 6 days a week, i don't drink (anymore) and I'm just not seeing a whole lot of results, eating all the veggies and protein shakes and just healthier also seems to bloat me and make me gassy.....i know its a fine line to cut body fat and gain muscle mass, so i need some advise....i am very disciplined and will do what it takes....just don't know what to do......oh ya i smoke too, that's my next goal, but one thing at a time,,,,and yes i know smoking is "bad" for you, lol....any input will be appreciated....

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You aren't going to be able to build any noticeable muscle whilst losing fat. Also, you seem to have a few misconceptions about diet, you don't need to only eat veggies and protein shakes. In fact, that would be a terrible diet.

1. Get rid of your [url=http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=136691851]misconceptions[/url]
2. Calculate your [url=http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=121703981]calories and macros[/url]
3. Eat about 20% less calories than you burn each day while still meeting minimum protein and fat. Get the remainder of cals from carbs.
4. Buy a kitchen scale and [b]weigh everything[/b] that you eat.
5. [b]Count calories[/b] using a site like [url=http://www.myfitnesspal.com]MyFitnessPal[/url]. Here's [url=http://www.fitnessfactreview.com/the-art-science-of-calorie-counting/]how to count properly.[/url]
6. Lift heavy weights to preserve muscle mass, on a program like [url=http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=998224]Starting Strength[/url]. Why not your own routine? [url=http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=118004321]Read this.[/url]
7. If nothing happens after 3 weeks, reexamine calculations, and eat less.

-Credit to dmacdonal9 for the list.

Try not to focus on losing fat and gaining muscle too much at the same time. Lower your BF% till you're satisfied with it and then do a clean bulk and the gains will come.

Good luck ;)

[QUOTE=NaberNuri;1019654783]Try not to focus on losing fat and gaining muscle too much at the same time. Lower your BF% till you're satisfied with it and then do a clean bulk and the gains will come.

Good luck ;)[/QUOTE]

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Matman1813I, didn't say that's all my diet diet consists of, i mentioned that part of it as far as the bloating goes, and your telling me a person cant trim fat and build muscle at the same time???? Really???

[QUOTE=matman1813;1019625653]You aren't going to be able to build any [B]noticeable [/B]muscle whilst losing fat. Also, you seem to have a few misconceptions about diet, you don't need to only eat veggies and protein shakes. In fact, that would be a terrible diet.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BDR67;1019730243]Matman1813I, didn't say that's all my diet diet consists of, i mentioned that part of it as far as the bloating goes, and your telling me a person cant trim fat and build muscle at the same time???? Really???[/QUOTE]

Read more carefully, op.

[QUOTE=BDR67;1019730243]Matman1813I, didn't say that's all my diet diet consists of, i mentioned that part of it as far as the bloating goes, and your telling me a person cant trim fat and build muscle at the same time???? Really???[/QUOTE]

Well, as far as diet goes in relation to body composition all we need to know is your calories and macros.

I said noticable muscle but as a general rule, you can't. There are a few exceptions: someone who has never lifted before, someone who has lifted before but completely detrained and lost a lot of size, genetic freaks and people using 'performance enhancers'. Even those people aren't going to be gaining large amounts of muscle. You [I]might[/I] gain really small amounts.